Quoting: Random2152
Okay... So how does that in any way disprove my point?
Your argument is "the return", but all I see is a concussion prone RHD that doesn't look like he will live up to being 1st overall (not that he is a bad player). He isn't a player we need (gards, Muzzin and Rielly easily combine to surpass his value) so it's hard to call him a difference maker and by your own admission the original was a stupid trade. So how would this be any different?
It's subjective...but IMO Ekbald is still very much a #1D. He's had a concussion problem, yes. So has Crosby....Matthews too.. I think the research coming out on head injuries has at least improved to the point where guys are taking the appropriate time to recoup before getting back on the ice.
And I think it' a fair argument to say that the Leafs are deepest at RW and thinnest at RHD. So, IMO, we need a RHD more than we need a RW.
It's just as fair an argument to say that all Nylander is is an overpaid RW that doesn't try and who's only real production has come as a result of playing beside Auston Matthews. Do I believe that? No...but that's not any different from your comment that Ekblad is a concussion prone RHD that will never live up to being the 1st overall pick. It's subjective, not fact.
So...do the leafs needs a #1 RHD...I believe so
Is Ekblad a #1 RHD? I believe so
Is Ekblad worth more than Nylander? I believe so
It doesn't make me right...but it's what, at this point in time with the information available to me, I believe. So I would do a trade like this.
For me...comparing Ekblad and Stemniak is not a realistic comparison. A 5th round pick winger who's best season was 52pts vs a 1st overall #1 defenceman?
Again...in this hypothetical scenario...I compare not trading Nylander for Ekblad similar to not willing to give up Steen for Pronger.
It's cool if you don't like Ekblad...if you don't then your point makes sense that you wouldn't give up quality winger for him. But for someone that likes him as a #1 RHD...then the swap has merit, IMO