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Only way San Jose would take Marleau

Created by: palhal
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2019
Published: Feb. 1, 2019
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Leafs are probably stuck with the full cap hit of Marleau if he wants to play next year. If he wants to retire then his cap can be traded to Arizona along with an expensive sweetener. If by chance San Jose wants Marleau at a reduced cap hit there is a way. Leafs trade Marleau to Arizona, then Arizona trades Marleau to San Jose with a 50% retention. Just cost Arizona 750,000 in cash plus 3.13 in cap space. San Jose as the same money cost and same cap. I don' think San Jose would even want Marleau at 3.13 cap hit but if they did, Marleau might accept the trade.
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Leafs add a 2020 first rounder to Arizona. Arizona trades Marleau to San Jose with 50% retention San Jose and Arizona both pay Marleau 750,00 and have his cap hit 3.313m. This the assumption that Marleau wants to continue to play, San Jose wants him and his cap hit and of course Marleau waives his NMC.
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Feb. 1, 2019 at 10:44 a.m.
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SJ isn't taking back Marleau, even at 50% retained. They have a lot of pending FAs, including Pavelski, Thornton, Meier, Karlsson, and Labanc. If they acquire Marleau, then they'd likely be losing a better player to FA.

The long and short of it is, the Leafs signed Marleau to a bad contract (in terms in term), not to mention it was a 35+ deal. Teams aren't exactly going to be lining up to help out the Leafs, unless you pay a higher premium than just a late 1st.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 10:49 a.m.
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SJ isn't taking back Marleau, even at 50% retained. They have a lot of pending FAs, including Pavelski, Thornton, Meier, Karlsson, and Labanc. If they acquire Marleau, then they'd likely be losing a better player to

The long and short of it is, the Leafs signed Marleau to a bad contract (in terms in term), not to mention it was a 35+ deal. Teams aren't exactly going to be lining up to help out the Leafs, unless you pay a higher premium than just a late 1st.


Arizona accepted Datsyk's cap hit of 7m for about the same offer as I proposed. Yes, I agree with San Jose probably wouldn't want Marleau, but if they did, this is the only way.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 10:53 a.m.
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Arizona accepted Datsyk's cap hit of 7m for about the same offer as I proposed. Yes, I agree with San Jose probably wouldn't want Marleau, but if they did, this is the only way.


Datsyuk was serving a purpose of getting them above the cap floor. Arizona isn't keeping his entire hit. So unless you're trading him to the Coyotes, which I doubt he'll waive his NMC/NTC for, I don't see why SJ would want him back.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 10:59 a.m.
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Datsyuk was serving a purpose of getting them above the cap floor. Arizona isn't keeping his entire hit. So unless you're trading him to the Coyotes, which I doubt he'll waive his NMC/NTC for, I don't see why SJ would want him back.


This is a continued urban legend about Arizona's cap floor. What they have is space between cap floor 60m and 83m maxnext year. So they have space and it certainly would be worth a 1st rounder to them. Obviously Marleau would only agree to the trade, if the second trade to San Jose was in place. I agree with you that San Jose probably doesn't want Marleau and his 3.13 cap hit. I just see so many trades about Marleau to San Jose, which to me are not realistic. This reduced cap to San Jose is "less unrealistic"
Feb. 1, 2019 at 11:04 a.m.
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This is a continued urban legend about Arizona's cap floor. What they have is space between cap floor 60m and 83m maxnext year. So they have space and it certainly would be worth a 1st rounder to them. Obviously Marleau would only agree to the trade, if the second trade to San Jose was in place. I agree with you that San Jose probably doesn't want Marleau and his 3.13 cap hit. I just see so many trades about Marleau to San Jose, which to me are not realistic. This reduced cap to San Jose is "less unrealistic"


Arizona wants players with high cap hits, and low actual salaries. So, unless Toronto pays the $3M bonus, which I'm sure they'd do, then it might happen. But even then, 3.13M for Marleau at 40 years old doesn't sound great for SJ.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 11:09 a.m.
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Arizona wants players with high cap hits, and low actual salaries. So, unless Toronto pays the $3M bonus, which I'm sure they'd do, then it might happen. But even then, 3.13M for Marleau at 40 years old doesn't sound great for SJ.


Actually how Arizona has done their bloated cap, is take insured LTIRs...such as Hossa, and Pronger. which don't cost any money at all. Of course this trade I suggested would be made in the summer.
One reason I see Nylander traded this summer after his bonus is paid is the cap hit is 6.9m but his actual $$$$ payout is 4.8m every year for 5 years. Arizona and Carolina might be trade partners.
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Feb. 1, 2019 at 12:03 p.m.
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Arizona wants players with high cap hits, and low actual salaries. So, unless Toronto pays the $3M bonus, which I'm sure they'd do, then it might happen. But even then, 3.13M for Marleau at 40 years old doesn't sound great for SJ.


Does it really matter if Marleau is 40? Only way he waived his ntc is if he retires. Yotes aren’t taking a player... just a contract much like Hossa. I think the 1st round pick is generous.
 
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