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Yzerman Fast Forwards Rebuild

Created by: Drw4209
Team: 2019-20 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 3, 2019
Published: Feb. 3, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,575,000
3$3,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Hughes, Jack
3$925,000
Veleno, Joe
3$871,333
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Hickey, Thomas
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
2.
DET
    1. Trouba, Jacob (RFA)
    Buyouts
    Buried
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    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$72,153,832$145,000$1,590,000$9,346,168

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $6,100,000$6,100,000
    C
    UFA - 4
    $9,575,000$9,575,000
    RW
    UFA - 8
    Hughes, Jack
    $925,000$925,000
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,300,000$3,300,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Veleno, Joe
    $871,333$871,333
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
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    $3,850,000$3,850,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $900,000$900,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $759,167$759,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $894,166$894,166
    LD
    RFA - 2
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $2,687,500$2,687,500
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,166,666$3,166,666
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $714,166$714,166 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
    RD
    RFA - 2
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $6,083,333$6,083,333
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,954,545$3,954,545
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1

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    Feb. 3, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.
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    Why would the islanders give up a 2nd to add more dead cap
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 1:19 p.m.
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    Any trade for Trouba is going to start with Zadina and Hronek. As a Wings fan I would wait for 2020/2021.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.
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    This team is way too top heavy.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 1:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Why would the islanders give up a 2nd to add more dead cap



    Dead cap? wtf are you talking about? Nielsen is actually decent and would replace Filpulla if he doesn't return. The Wings are taking Hickey, the cap dump with the same term length as Nielsen.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 1:52 p.m.
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    Any trade for Trouba is going to start with Zadina and Hronek. As a Wings fan I would wait for 2020/2021.


    No it won't because the Jets won't get decide what they want exactly. He's going to leave and the Jets need to get something for him before that. Problem for them is Trouba won't resign just anywhere so any team interested in acquiring him isn't gonna pay a lot not knowing if they can resign him. The Wings are the one team that can feel confident in signing him. And getting Rasmussen is better than some late 1st + scraps they'd get selling him as a rental
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.
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    This team is way too top heavy.


    I'm not sure what you're talking about. That team is young and deep and would be a contender for a long time
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 1:56 p.m.
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    I'm not sure what you're talking about. That team is young and deep and would be a contender for a long time


    The defense is terrible. That's what I'm talking about.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 2:02 p.m.
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    As long as the Hughes part happens I don't care about the rest.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 2:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drw4209
    Dead cap? wtf are you talking about? Nielsen is actually decent and would replace Filpulla if he doesn't return. The Wings are taking Hickey, the cap dump with the same term length as Nielsen.


    Nielsen is not worth a second. Over 5 mill for a 35 year declining player for the next 3 years, when their team is looking to add younger pieces. It doesnt make sense
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 3:44 p.m.
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    Y is not stupid enough to trade talent for a guy that won’t help in 2019/2020. He’ll get him for free in 2020. Only bad GMs make dumb moves like that...
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 4:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    The defense is terrible. That's what I'm talking about.


    Why you think that? Cholowski been very good for 19 year old, looks like could be legit top pair D in near future. Trouba is a legit #1. Mike Green has been phenomenal this year and has always been a solid middle pair D. Danny Dekeyser is a solid #4. Hronek is a good, young D with top 4 potential. Daley solid vet for bottom pair. Ericsson solid as a #7 while we wait for his contract to clear the books. Not the best D in the league by any means but far from terrible
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 4:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Nielsen is not worth a second. Over 5 mill for a 35 year declining player for the next 3 years, when their team is looking to add younger pieces. It doesnt make sense


    You don't seem to understand this. Wings are taking Hickey (who is a total cap dump) at 2.5M for 3 more years so NYI essentially getting Nielsen 50% retained. That being the case and factoring in he's actually a decent 2C/good 3C who has shown no signs of slowing down he's absolutely worth a 2nd round pick.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 4:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drw4209
    You don't seem to understand this. Wings are taking Hickey (who is a total cap dump) at 2.5M for 3 more years so NYI essentially getting Nielsen 50% retained. That being the case and factoring in he's actually a decent 2C/good 3C who has shown no signs of slowing down he's absolutely worth a 2nd round pick.


    Hickey isn't much of a cap dump in this situation. Nielsen is.
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    Why you think that? Cholowski been very good for 19 year old, looks like could be legit top pair D in near future. Trouba is a legit #1. Mike Green has been phenomenal this year and has always been a solid middle pair D. Danny Dekeyser is a solid #4. Hronek is a good, young D with top 4 potential. Daley solid vet for bottom pair. Ericsson solid as a #7 while we wait for his contract to clear the books

    Dekeyser and Ericsson are bad man. Green is not a long term solution, Hronek and Cholowski are good, and Trouba has never played a top line role. Daley is older than dirt. Detroit needs to move a forward for a young D man. This teams long term outlook on the back end is not very bright.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 4:58 p.m.
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    Edited Feb. 3, 2019 at 5:31 p.m.
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    Y is not stupid enough to trade talent for a guy that won’t help in 2019/2020. He’ll get him for free in 2020. Only bad GMs make dumb moves like that...


    I understand the situation, and maybe it works that way which would be great for the Wings but personally I don't think Rasmussen is very good, he reminds me of like Nick Bjustad, he'll have a role on a team but he's not this uber talented guy the Wings are going to build their franchise around. Problem for Ras is the Wings will be stocked on the wings for the foreseeable future and he's gonna have a hard time getting top 6 minutes. So if the cost is giving him up to get Trouba signed, sealed, and delivered before he hits free agency then f*ck it i'll do it. And while Trouba signing with Detroit in 2020 looks like a decent possibility, you shouldn't just assume he'd end up here for sure if he did hit the market
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 5:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    Hickey isn't much of a cap dump in this situation. Nielsen is.

    Dekeyser and Ericsson are bad man. Green is not a long term solution, Hronek and Cholowski are good, and Trouba has never played a top line role. Daley is older than dirt. Detroit needs to move a forward for a young D man. This teams long term outlook on the back end is not very bright.


    Like are you kidding? Hickey is complete trash, he's not even an NHL'er and he's signed for 3 more years. Nielsen turning out .5PPG as a 2C, been solid all year, not shown any signs of aging. I don't want to move Frans because he sucks, just trying to open a center spot for Veleno. While yes there is some long term risk for NYI that Nielsen ages poorly over next couple years, in the short term it's actually a solid deal, meanwhile the Wings get stuck with a cap dump Hickey toiling in the minors and counting against their cap and a 2nd round lottery ticket that may produce a player in a few years but more likely won't.

    You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the Wings defensemen. Yes Ericsson sucks, that's why he was the 7th D meaning he wouldn't play much. We're just waiting for his contract to come off the books atp. Dekeyser does not suck at all, not much offense but very solid, steady defensive D. Daley being old doesn't change the fact he can still play, no he's not a long term piece but he's more than capable of filling a bottom pair role.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 5:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drw4209
    Like are you kidding? Hickey is complete trash, he's not even an NHL'er and he's signed for 3 more years. Nielsen turning out .5PPG as a 2C, been solid all year, not shown any signs of aging. I don't want to move Frans because he sucks, just trying to open a center spot for Veleno. While yes there is some long term risk for NYI that Nielsen ages poorly over next couple years, in the short term it's actually a solid deal, meanwhile the Wings get stuck with a cap dump Hickey toiling in the minors and counting against there cap and a 2nd round lottery ticket that may produce a player in a few years but more likely won't.

    You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the Wings defensemen. Yes Ericsson sucks, that's why he was the 7th D meaning he wouldn't play much. We're just waiting for his contract to come off the books atp. Dekeyser does not suck at all, not much offense but very solid, steady defensive D. Daley being old doesn't change the fact he can still play, no he's not a long term piece but he's more than capable of filling a bottom pair role.


    This is my point, your forward group is young and promising, while your D group is old and meddling. There's no balance or structure in development. The young forwards will be elite in two years, while the D corps will still be developing. Detroit doesn't need Hughes with Larkin and AA down the middle.
    Feb. 3, 2019 at 6:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    This is my point, your forward group is young and promising, while your D group is old and meddling. There's no balance or structure in development. The young forwards will be elite in two years, while the D corps will still be developing. Detroit doesn't need Hughes with Larkin and AA down the middle.


    They still have prospects and future draft picks and trades/free agency to address future openings on D. You can't solve everything at once. Jared McIsaac is another promising D who should hopefully be up in a couple years. Gustav Lindstrom is 19 and playing in SHL, looking like could be a sneaky good pick and future piece on D. Ville Saarijarvi might be another guy who could play. Still in the meantime Trouba, Cholowski, Hronek, McIsaac is a solid core to build around for now

    AA ideally isn't a center, he's best served on the wing, I just put AA at C figuring Wings would prefer to ease Hughes in. Still the assumption here is that the Wings win the lottery and they wouldn't pass on Hughes
     
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