Forums/NHL Signings

Washington Capitals signed Pheonix Copley (3 Years / $1,100,000 AAV)

Was this a good signing?
The chart has been hidden

Poll Options

 

Feb 4 at 10:54
#1
Pheonix Copley has signed a new contract with the Washington Capitals.
STANDARD CONTRACT
COMPARE THIS CONTRACT
LENGTH: 3 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: Washington CapitalsWashington Capitals
VALUE: $3,300,000
C.H.% : 1.38
SIGNING DATE: February 4, 2019
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2019-20$1,100,000$1,100,000$0$300,000$750,000$1,050,000$1,050,000
2020-21$1,100,000$1,100,000$0$0$750,000$750,000$750,000
2021-22$1,100,000$1,100,000$0$0$1,500,000$1,500,000$1,500,000
TOTAL$3,300,000$3,300,000$0$300,000$3,000,000$3,300,000$3,300,000
Feb 4 at 11:04
#2
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 10,900
Likes: 2,052
So what is Samsonov's status then? I remember when Caps fans were telling me he was a better prospect than Hart.
Feb 4 at 11:13
#3
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 89
Likes: 69
This doesn’t exactly show me that Washington has faith in the immediate future with Ilya Samsonov. At least anybody with Samsonov in any dynasty fantasy leagues now know that he’s not getting any games under his belt for the next 3 years
weirfanno1 liked this.
Feb 4 at 11:16
#4
Oilers, Bruins, Jets
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 884
Likes: 375
This is a decent deal but could Samsonov’s value drop?
Feb 4 at 11:22
#5
Jets
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 462
Likes: 345
Lots of backups signing 3 year deals this year. From a Jets perspective this contract signals the absolute minimum AAV that Winnipeg can bring Brossoit back for.
weirfanno1 liked this.
Feb 4 at 11:25
#6
Below Market Value
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,199
Likes: 1,008
Quoting: toque
Lots of backups signing 3 year deals this year. From a Jets perspective this contract signals the absolute minimum AAV that Winnipeg can bring Brossoit back for.


I'm guessing the three year deals are due to the Seattle expansion draft. The third year allows them to be exposed.
toque, rebecca, Bryzgalovs_bears and 8 others liked this.
Feb 4 at 11:29
#7
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 89
Likes: 69
Quoting: toque
Lots of backups signing 3 year deals this year. From a Jets perspective this contract signals the absolute minimum AAV that Winnipeg can bring Brossoit back for.


So just like this contract makes you wonder what’s going to happen to Samsonov, if the Jets sign Brossoit for three years it makes you wonder what’s going to happen to Comrie.
toque, bixyboii and weirfanno1 liked this.
Feb 4 at 11:46
#8
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 232
Likes: 142
Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
I'm guessing the three year deals are due to the Seattle expansion draft. The third year allows them to be exposed.


You nailed it. Contrary to what some others are saying, this actually supports the idea that the Caps are going with Samsonov long-term as they’re ensuring they have a different goalie that satisfies the exposure requirements.
krakowitz, Bryzgalovs_bears, Hockeyfan1972 and 3 others liked this.
Feb 4 at 11:52
#9
Blues GM v4
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 7,922
Likes: 2,335
It's an interesting call to make, but it makes sense. Copley's been good for us, so if Samsonov isn't quite ready to step in, he can stay as the backup. I'm more intrigued as to what this means for Holtby. His contract expires after next season and there's no sense in signing him to a long term extension since Samsonov is the future. No room for Ilya to move up in the organization at that point.
bixyboii and Agent_Scarn liked this.
Feb 4 at 5:42
#10
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 37
Likes: 14
All of the chatter here surrounding Samsonov is a bit off base. Samsonov is still the goalie of the future in WAS in the same way Hart was in PHI at the start of this season. Signing Copley to this deal does 2 things. First off he is an affordable backup in the near future and has a cap hit low enough to be sent down without cap implications. Secondly when the expansion draft comes along he will meet the exposure requirements. Holtby's future contract will be decided when that time comes and as WAS has proven over the years they are not afraid to move goaltenders (Varlamov, Grubaer).
Oggsford_Blues and Agent_Scarn liked this.
Feb 4 at 6:26
#11
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,413
Likes: 565
Helps show that just because a player (Samsonov) is a team's best prospect, it doesn't mean that he is a great prospect in the grand scheme.
GeraltofRivia liked this.
Feb 5 at 12:38
#12
Ducks Fly Together
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 256
Likes: 79
Quoting: Hockeyfan1972
All of the chatter here surrounding Samsonov is a bit off base. Samsonov is still the goalie of the future in WAS in the same way Hart was in PHI at the start of this season. Signing Copley to this deal does 2 things. First off he is an affordable backup in the near future and has a cap hit low enough to be sent down without cap implications. Secondly when the expansion draft comes along he will meet the exposure requirements. Holtby's future contract will be decided when that time comes and as WAS has proven over the years they are not afraid to move goaltenders (Varlamov, Grubaer).


Thank you hockeyfan for putting it so well. Everyone in this thread should read your comment. This contract is about locking up a competent backup and ensuring expansion draft requirements will be met. Nothing - AT ALL - to do with Samsonov.
Agent_Scarn liked this.
Feb 5 at 2:36
#13
Go Jets Go!!
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 73
Likes: 63
Like the deal and lets face it. Samsonov is 2 years from being of any impact in the NHL. Can't handle the pressure of an AHL schedule and talent level.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Submit Poll Edit