Like this trade for both sides

As a NYR fan, not sure Zibanejad is available at all, especially the way he's playing now. Only way this could possibly happen is if Hayes extends, which I don't see happening given he'll be a UFA. Return is pretty good but realistically we aren't trading 93.

Done, done and DONE! Pack your winter coat Zibby your on your way to a contender! THIS is the kind of trade the Jets should be looking for, not another rental and not trading Roslovic.

I personally as a NHL fan sense don't like the idea of Winnipeg selling Vesalainen. Dude is an absolute stud of a player.

IM a NYR fan too, who would have ever guessed brassard was available when we traded him ? I think this also has hidden value, help us get to the bottom of the standings tremendously. Keep getting prospects until 2020 when smith, shatty, hank, staal (25mi) comes off the books and then start adding

Wow, would that be horrible for the Rangers.

Wow, Veselanian is only a top 5 prospect in all of hockey

Switch out the 2nd rounder for a 2020 2nd but give us back a 2020 4th rounder. The Jets wont give up that many pieces in the draft...Overall its fine

He's a good prospect, but definitely not top 5. Pronman has him at 26 and Button has him at 22.

Regardless, this absolutely kills team morale. What does it show to the players? Play good and we'll send you away, even if you're locked up long term on a super team friendly deal?

Looks pretty decent, I just hope the Jets can afford it all. Maybe New York has to take back a bad contract (Kulikov?)

EDIT: Actually Perreault would probably be better for both teams, if we're going there

So... if a team is not doing good this season they should just sell off anyone that is good and has term, because...? They are still a hockey team. You sell off guys without term and keep the guys with term.

Out of your mind.

I'm a Jets fan and I'd part with Vesalainen for Zibenejad in a heartbeat, h£ll I'd add a few more pieces to get it done.

I think this Ranger fan has the right idea. NY is still years away from competing and years of term locked up in bad contracts like Staal, Smith and Shattenkirk will keep the NY from being competitive and trading them will cost you assets. Better off to trade some pieces of value for a big return and rebuild.

wouldn't be a problem for NYR

its not about not doing good, their rebuilding. We need to get high draft picks because we are years away. when the rangers are competitive zibanejad will be 30

Right, Because a player can't be good at 30?

When Phil Kessel was 25 (same age as Mika is currently) he put up 52 points in 48 games, very similar to Mika's current numbers. Last year he was 30 and put up 92 points in 82 games. Players don't just disappear the moment they turn 30.

my point exactly Pittsburgh for example.. have top end talent next to kessel ever heard of Crosby and malkin ? thats from getting the 1st and 2nd overall pick and rebuilding for multiple years. When the rangers do that they can go out and trade for a kessel like Pittsburgh did

Why would you trade someone away in hopes of trading for someone exactly like them further down the line??

It's a "you can pick between this boat and the mystery box. The box can contain anything, even a boat!" Scenario

Doesn't make sense for the rangers... Yes there are the Smith/Staal contracts that are horrible and the shatty one that isn't the best. There is a simple solution.

Rid the UFA's for picks/prospects: For Hayes/Zucc/McQuaid/Claesson we could be looking at 2 good prospects, and a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks
Rid the not so great cap hit with middle six depth to a team that can afford it: Package Vesey/Strome and a late pick for someone to take Smith
Buyout the really horrible contracts: Staal (and smith if you can't do the above)
Trade away a slightly overpriced contract with retained: Shatty @ 1/2 retained should garner a good prospect and a 2nd minimally. Probably could get Foote from Tampa if you take back callahan as well (and buy him out)

You keep the core: Kreider, Zibanejad, Chytil, DeAngelo, Howden, Skjei, Pionk, Fast
Introduce prospects: Kravtsov, Miller, Lundkvist, Shestyorkin, Andersson
Introduce FA: Panarin, Karlsson, Marner (offer sheet) -- need to get 1/3 minimally, 2/3 ideal, 3/3 is impossible for cap reasons
And you have a solid top 9F and top 4D

rangers have solid depth defenseman options between Lindgren, Hajek, Rykov, etc. Maybe package Pionk with one of them and a earlyish pick for a potential top pairing RHD

the rangers have 0 top end talent and have only announced a rebuild 9 months ago. Lundqvist is going to be 38 and we are not going to be competitive until contracts off the books. u want to trade assets to get rid of contracts ? for what reason we aren't going to competitive whats the hurry to get rid of them. rebuilds last 3-5 years.

Well Zibanejad has played himself into a top end talent, and we have Kravtsov (ranked #1 by tsn's top 50 NHL affiliated prospects) and Shestyorkin (ranked number 10). Rangers need a top end winger (Panarin via Free Agency or Marner via offer sheet) and a top 4 RHD (Trouba via trade [considering he's really been against signing long term in Wpg]) and you have a pretty damn good team

Panarin-Zibanejad-Kravtsov
Kreider-Chytil-Buchnevich
Namestnikov-Andersson- (the top 10 draft pick this year)
Nieves-Howden-Fast
Skjei-Trouba
Miller-DeAngelo
Lindgren-Rykov

Lundqvist-Shestyorkin

Will this team win the cup next year? No-- but it sets it up nicely for the following year, and this isn't taking into account the potential return for Hayes/Zucc/McQuaid/Claesson. The team as listed above most likely makes the playoffs (i'm assuming Pionk and Hajek was included in trouba deal plus some picks)

edit:

if the rangers can manage to clear 25-30m in cap, they can realistically go after Panarin, Marner and Trouba

Staal: 5.7 (buyout would cost 2.6m
Smith: 4.4
Namestnikov: 4
Strome: 3.1
Vesey: 2.3
Shattenkirk: 6.7
Zucc- 4.5
Hayes-5.2
McQuaid- 2.8

the total here is over 38m, obviously rangers may have to retain and staals buyout would cost less than 3. Rangers should end up with around 28m in cap space after elc or cheap fill ins (Lindgren, Rykov, Kravtsov, Andersson, Nieves, Miller, DeAngelo, etc)

Lol, thats a pipe dream buddy, why buyout the last 2 years of a guys deal when we suck anyway and have the cap. Kravtsov ranking is completely made up. Rangers aren't coming anywhere near the playoffs for a couple years and I'm a ranger fan get real

https://www.tsn.ca/top-50-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1241869 -- yeah i totally made that up.. it's not from you know, canada's leading hockey network or anything.

Is it a pipe dream for all three mention? Yes, but 2/3 can be done easily. If you need to you buy them out-- who said buy them out if you can afford what you need to do to put a contending team out there?
Zibanejad, Chytil, Kravtsov and Shestyorkin all have the ability/potential to be "elite" players in the league (no it will not happen overnight). I'm not saying they'll be the best team in the league and will definitely win the cup, but they'll be a playoff team and have a chance if they make two key moves.

years away still.. I'm looking to build a 2022 cup contender your looking to build a 2020 1st round exit