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Realistic Jack Johnson Trade

Created by: TheExpert
Team: 2018-19 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 7, 2019
Published: Feb. 7, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Notice how I didn't make a trade? That's because there's no such thing as a realistic Jack Johnson trade. The problem with trading JJ this season is the fact that the combination of his play and contract gives him a virtually negative trade value. The Pens would have to trade him with a significant asset to make a deal even plausible. Then there's the possibility that they'd have to retain salary.. I've seen some trades that could work, but not this season. The earliest a trade will even become a possibility is next season, and that's only if he shows improvements. Although I do believe that's possible if the Pens play to their full potential as a team. The most realistic time frame for a JJ trade would be sometime between the 2020 draft and 2021-22 trade deadline. At this point they could be able to make a trade similar to the Hunwick/Sheary deal with Buffalo.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$75,036,559$0$982,500$4,463,441
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$734,167$734,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$794,167$794,167
LD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 7, 2019 at 6:14 p.m.
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MisstheWhalers
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He's Crosby's buddy, he ain't going anywhere.
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Feb. 7, 2019 at 6:15 p.m.
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Yep, sure is difficult to trade a unwanted player with four years of term after this year. With a 5..525m raise to Guentzal next season, not a flexible cap for Pens.
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Feb. 7, 2019 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Yep, sure is difficult to trade a unwanted player with four years of term after this year. With a 5..525m raise to Guentzal next season, not a flexible cap for Pens.


Unless they resign all of their young players to team-friendly deals a cap casualty seems inevitable. If Blueger or Aston-Reese can earn a larger role, Pearson will be the most likely candidate.
Feb. 7, 2019 at 6:27 p.m.
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Big John T
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For all the hockey smarts in the NHL

There's a lot of old boys repeating the same mistakes over and over.
JJ was guaranteed to be a bad contract because age related decline was multiplied by the term.
It's an absolute disaster 1 year in though. You can blame the salary on a bidding war, but giving term was an inexcusable mistake.

Is it buyout proof because of the age 35+ season? Otherwise I guess they hold it for 1 more season, and then pay a team starting their rebuild to warehouse the contract.
Feb. 7, 2019 at 6:38 p.m.
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C,mon Leafs...Please
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Quoting: tatatavares
For all the hockey smarts in the NHL

There's a lot of old boys repeating the same mistakes over and over.
JJ was guaranteed to be a bad contract because age related decline was multiplied by the term.
It's an absolute disaster 1 year in though. You can blame the salary on a bidding war, but giving term was an inexcusable mistake.

Is it buyout proof because of the age 35+ season? Otherwise I guess they hold it for 1 more season, and then pay a team starting their rebuild to warehouse the contract.


The '35+' clause is only for when the contract is signed when the player is 35 + at the time of signing
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Feb. 7, 2019 at 7:04 p.m.
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Quoting: tatatavares
For all the hockey smarts in the NHL

There's a lot of old boys repeating the same mistakes over and over.
JJ was guaranteed to be a bad contract because age related decline was multiplied by the term.
It's an absolute disaster 1 year in though. You can blame the salary on a bidding war, but giving term was an inexcusable mistake.

Is it buyout proof because of the age 35+ season? Otherwise I guess they hold it for 1 more season, and then pay a team starting their rebuild to warehouse the contract.


He was already not a good player so term on its own isn't an issue. If it was 1.5m for five years you can easily bury, trade, buyout, or even just use him as a 7th defenseman. But because he takes up over 3m of cap space(which is more in line with what a 2nd pairing defenseman would make) its harder to trade, cant really buyout easily, you can bury him in the AHL but that leaves you with 2million of a cap hit still.
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Feb. 7, 2019 at 7:33 p.m.
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Re-sign Bo
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Is he still bankrupt?
Feb. 7, 2019 at 8:26 p.m.
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He was already not a good player so term on its own isn't an issue. If it was 1.5m for five years you can easily bury, trade, buyout, or even just use him as a 7th defenseman. But because he takes up over 3m of cap space(which is more in line with what a 2nd pairing defenseman would make) its harder to trade, cant really buyout easily, you can bury him in the AHL but that leaves you with 2million of a cap hit still.


That's what I was thinking they could bury him.
 
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