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New 3rd line Kadri for Pesce

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Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 9, 2019
Published: Feb. 9, 2019
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Is this a win/win?
Bracco and/or Moore get the permanent call up and both make the team next year.
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Feb. 9, 2019 at 8:33 p.m.
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That's a hell no. Nylander, Rosen, and a 2nd.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 8:46 p.m.
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Leafs have no reason to do the trade this season. And even next season, it's just cap neutral for the Leafs, which doesn't solve their 6m cap overage.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 8:51 p.m.
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Leafs have no reason to do the trade this season. And even next season, it's just cap neutral for the Leafs, which doesn't solve their 6m cap overage.


they save ~2.5M??
Feb. 9, 2019 at 9:39 p.m.
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That's a hell no. Nylander, Rosen, and a 2nd.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahshaha.

Good luck with that chief.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 9:41 p.m.
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That's a hell no. Nylander, Rosen, and a 2nd.


Seriously? Try Nylander straight up.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 9:44 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Leafs have no reason to do the trade this season. And even next season, it's just cap neutral for the Leafs, which doesn't solve their 6m cap overage.


They've been mediocre since before Christmas and can't take a single playoff run for granted. Their 3rd line gets stronger, their 2nd pairing gets stronger, and they clear Brown plus a half million for next year.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 9:52 p.m.
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Seriously? Try Nylander straight up.


Pesce is underrated one of the best defensive Defenseman. Carolina can get another person who scoring. You don't have anyone to replace his defense.

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahshaha.

Good luck with that chief.


Chief Nylander couldn't score in a boot suit.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 9:59 p.m.
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Pesce is underrated one of the best defensive Defenseman. Carolina can get another person who scoring. You don't have anyone to replace his defense.



Chief Nylander couldn't score in a boot suit.


You may not get the defensive game, but you improve your offense. Nylander can score, but struggling right now because he decided to sit out two months. Nylander isn't Tarasenko by any means, but remember when people were saying he couldn't score any more and is regressing? You defended him pretty hard saying it was just a bad year. Nylander is having a bad year as well.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 10:00 p.m.
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You may not get the defensive game, but you improve your offense. Nylander can score, but struggling right now because he decided to sit out two months. Nylander isn't Tarasenko by any means, but remember when people were saying he couldn't score any more and is regressing? You defended him pretty hard saying it was just a bad year. Nylander is having a bad year as well.


Yeah he is having a bad year no doubt, but I wouldn't want to pay that hefty bonus with the risk.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 10:01 p.m.
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You may not get the defensive game, but you improve your offense. Nylander can score, but struggling right now because he decided to sit out two months. Nylander isn't Tarasenko by any means, but remember when people were saying he couldn't score any more and is regressing? You defended him pretty hard saying it was just a bad year. Nylander is having a bad year as well.


I know Nylander will be better, but at this point the season is lost for him, and also the fact that the bonus is going to be hefty on the Hurricanes pockets.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 10:21 p.m.
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Yeah he is having a bad year no doubt, but I wouldn't want to pay that hefty bonus with the risk.


If they don't want to pay a bonus they better trade Aho now because he's probably going to want a bigger bonus than Nylander. Aho could easily have justas bad of a year.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 10:31 p.m.
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If they don't want to pay a bonus they better trade Aho now because he's probably going to want a bigger bonus than Nylander. Aho could easily have justas bad of a year.


No I was taking that into consideration. They don't want to pay Aho's and Nylander's could you imagine trying to pay that?
Feb. 9, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
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Quoting: LobbysOilers
they save ~2.5M??


Well, it's less than than that cause you still gotta fill one position because you've traded two players for one. Still the Leafs would be looking to move over 4m next year. Nylander is having a tough enough problem this year, I wouldn't trust in at centre....at least this year.
But why I really don't think it's a good deal for the Leafs this year. You lose Kadri at centre, plus Brown. Having Pesce on defence replacing Zaitsev or Hainsey just isn't worth Kadri and Brown...this season.
Feb. 9, 2019 at 10:37 p.m.
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No I was taking that into consideration. They don't want to pay Aho's and Nylander's could you imagine trying to pay that?


They'll pay it because whether they like or not, that's the new NHL. Players want the money up front now instead of spreading it out over the course of the year.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 12:17 a.m.
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Pesce is underrated one of the best defensive Defenseman. Carolina can get another person who scoring. You don't have anyone to replace his defense.



Chief Nylander couldn't score in a boot suit.


Scoring isn't that easy to come by and guys seem to light it up when they leave that organization.

7 points in his last 7 games...took him a while to get going but he is up to speed.

And let's be realistic. The whole league learned a lesson from the Hall trade, that won't happen again. Offering Kadri for defensive help might be just as bad and I'm not a Kadri fan.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 12:25 a.m.
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Scoring isn't that easy to come by and guys seem to light it up when they leave that organization.

7 points in his last 7 games...took him a while to get going but he is up to speed.

And let's be realistic. The whole league learned a lesson from the Hall trade, that won't happen again. Offering Kadri for defensive help might be just as bad and I'm not a Kadri fan.


Honestly I would think that Carolina wouldn't want to pay that Bonus anyway.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 12:57 a.m.
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That's a hell no. Nylander, Rosen, and a 2nd.


You're not a hockey fan if you think that's a fair trade. Nylander has 7 points in his last 6 games, has had a 50%+ corsi rating, and a good xG% too. Dudes played amazing, took him some time to come back up to speed, but since then he's played solid, defensively too. Nylander's deal in 2-3 years will be an absolute steal. Now, go worry about your Blues, looks like they're not cup contending anytime soon. Also, Pesce isn't the second coming of Bobby Orr, calm down.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 1:01 a.m.
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You're not a hockey fan if you think that's a fair trade. Nylander has 7 points in his last 6 games, has had a 50%+ corsi rating, and a good xG% too. Dudes played amazing, took him some time to come back up to speed, but since then he's played solid, defensively too. Nylander's deal in 2-3 years will be an absolute steal. Now, go worry about your Blues, looks like they're not cup contending anytime soon. Also, Pesce isn't the second coming of Bobby Orr, calm down.


I am a hockey fan, I am just not a Maple Leaf Bias fan.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 1:03 a.m.
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I am a hockey fan, I am just not a Maple Leaf Bias fan.


No, you think that trade is fair, thus, you're not a hockey fan.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 1:26 a.m.
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No, you think that trade is fair, thus, you're not a hockey fan.


I am just not a biased Toronto fan. You underrate something you simply lack....defense.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 1:33 a.m.
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I am just not a biased Toronto fan. You underrate something you simply lack....defense.


Take a guess who has allowed the 5th fewest goals this season. Yep, the Toronto Maple Leafs. I have some advice for you, before you speak on a topic, do some research.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 1:37 a.m.
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Take a guess who has allowed the 5th fewest goals this season. Yep, the Toronto Maple Leafs. I have some advice for you, before you speak on a topic, do some research.


okay then guess what tell your fans that you don't need defense.
Feb. 10, 2019 at 11:32 a.m.
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Well, it's less than than that cause you still gotta fill one position because you've traded two players for one. Still the Leafs would be looking to move over 4m next year. Nylander is having a tough enough problem this year, I wouldn't trust in at centre....at least this year.
But why I really don't think it's a good deal for the Leafs this year. You lose Kadri at centre, plus Brown. Having Pesce on defence replacing Zaitsev or Hainsey just isn't worth Kadri and Brown...this season.


do you know who nazem kadri is? do you think he turned into a 1st line centre or something??
Feb. 10, 2019 at 11:47 a.m.
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Quoting: notKyleDUbas123
You're not a hockey fan if you think that's a fair trade. Nylander has 7 points in his last 6 games, has had a 50%+ corsi rating, and a good xG% too. Dudes played amazing, took him some time to come back up to speed, but since then he's played solid, defensively too. Nylander's deal in 2-3 years will be an absolute steal. Now, go worry about your Blues, looks like they're not cup contending anytime soon. Also, Pesce isn't the second coming of Bobby Orr, calm down.


Yes, we have to get rid of these urban legends. Such as all Leaf dmen are all bad (except Reilly). All Carolina Dmen are all stars. Not that disagree with the trading of Nylander for cap reasons
Feb. 10, 2019 at 11:51 a.m.
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do you know who nazem kadri is? do you think he turned into a 1st line centre or something??


Yes, I do know who Kadri is. Get rid of Kadri and now you have Lindholm and Gauthier filling big minutes at centre. If Matthew or Tavares are injured those two guys play even more minutes.
Actually I like Pesce, but geez why have the Canes somehow half these four Allstar RHD,,,Hamilton, Pesce, Faulk, and Hamilton...along with Slavin at LHD?
 
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