A little bit of an overpay for Toffoli imo, could still use another G but good enough for a run at playoffs for sure. Maybe add a top 9 winger better that Sheahan.

So Visali Padolskin for two no names in the Washington trade, if they don't take the Lucic contract im not trading Evgeny Kuznetsov 2.0

Fair enough, but if Muzzin gets a 1st and 2 prospects my guess is Toff gets something similar (maybe Yama is too pricey)
I would go after a veteran backup as well ( McELHINNEY or Nillsson)
I really like Sheahan, but yes if you could find a better winger to go with the Nuge and run 3C you would be sitting pretty

Say what??

A 5th overall for two no names?

Yeah, that's just ridiculous.

What trade are you referring to?

The Washington trade.

Bowey & Burakovsky for a 1st Benning and a 4th???

Who are the no name players?

Bowey and Burakovsky, no names meaning low impact and lower depth players.

I think you and I have differing opinions on just how valuable a 6th overall pick is.

Have you watched a caps game? Bowey is a massively underrated dman and Bura is in a down year but can play with elite players. So low impact is a nonsense comment with no base
I get that fans don't like trading 1st round picks especially when it could be a top tier prospect and if im the Oilers GM with the opportunity to draft (Dach or Cozens) i would likely use the pick. Keep in mind EDM had offers to move the 4th overall when they took Puljujarvi, and im not suggesting he is a bust but implying that keeping the pick regardless of who is available at the draft is not always the right move. Therefore if EDM is out of the top 5 they need to add players that can help them now. Bowey and Bura are under team control and are improvements on Edmonton's current roster composition

EDM does not need another prospect, they need NHL talent. Bowey & Bura are bonafide NHL players who are improvements over what EDM currently roles out nightly and they both fill areas of weakness

That doesn't make sense. NYR need NHL talent too, should they trade Kravtsov* for (say) Matt Benning? Of course not.

* Kravtsov was drafted 9th overall 8 months ago and is currently considered the best prospect in the world. This could be the Oilers exact situation in 12 months with the 2019 1st round pick.

https://www.tsn.ca/top-50-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1241869

NYR and EDM are apples and oranges. EDM has McDavid Drai Nuge & Klef and they need win now pieces / NYR is in rebuild or reload mode they can afford to let Kravtsov mature
The whole basis of this situation is trading for players that immediately help (under team control), rather than add hopefuls like the TSN top ranked prospect hahah

How does a "NYR trade Kravtsov for (say) Matt Benning" fit this conversation when im suggesting EDM deal the first rounder at the draft for NHL talent?
Also Kravtsov could be considered the next Malkin or Zherdev i dont care, he isnt playing in the NHL and a TSN list means nothing.

Have a look and try understanding that both players are drastic improvements or the players they would likely replace on EDMs roster
https://public.tableau.com/shared/B544JFZ99?:display_count=yes
https://public.tableau.com/shared/S7DSH7MJ4?:display_count=yes

Toronto, St. Louis and Calgary laugh and block your number. The players don't fit and/or the values aren't even close.

Kassian is an effective bottom six player and Toronto will look to add a gritty style player at the TDL. (trade comparables Soshnikov for a 4th or Wilson for a 5th)
St. Louis would be so devastated by trading a 6th for a bottom six center who they are familiar with......
Calgary is looking for a 3rd pair Dman to fill Stones spot / Czar & Prout are non regulars under the new coach (trade comparable Del Zotto to Ana or Emelin to NSH)
Tell me where those trades dont fit...

Edmonton is in "win-now" mode? That's a laugh - they aren't even in the playoff picture.

What i dont understand is why you commenting when you have no clue what you are talking about. Edmonton, while not succeeding, is clearly in win now mode or they'd be trading players for picks as we type...
If EDM goes after NHL talent they will drastically improve their team and hopefully become a playoff team once again. You are suggesting drafting another prospect, and thats fine, but it likely doesnt help EDM in the near future.

Pick your poison, do you want playoffs and a winning team or a potential top tier player?

Playoffs aren't happening this year. And AGM Gretzky already said that he's looking at "NHL player for prospect" type deals. We're still a ways away from the trade deadline, it will happen.

Also, the type of picks they'll get from their pending UFA's are 3rd round and lower, which are long-term prospects. A 6th overall pick is very likely make an impact at the NHL level at 19, not the same thing at all. Guys like Elias Petterson (5th overall 2017) and Casey Mittelstadt (8th - 2017) are making an impact this year. In 2016, 6th overall pick Matthew Tkachuk stepped right into the NHL, while Keller (7th), Sergachev (9th) and Jost (10th) jumped in after just 1 additional development year.

Bottom line: keeping the 6th overall pick WILL impact the Oilers roster in the near future. Trading it for a 3rd line forward and a bottom-pair defenseman AND adding other assets in insane.

Evegeny Kuznetsov 3 years ago for Paul Byron+Victor Mete, that’s a trade on your analogy. Podolzkin or Cozens are way better than your expecting and 2019 is an elite forward heavy draft

I'm glad we can agree on a few things #1 Playoffs arent happening this year & #2 the return on the UFA's / Older players is not going to be a sexy return.

However your assessment of Bura & Bowey are out to lunch, Bura has the speed and Hockey IQ to play with McDavid or Drai and Bowey is an excellent passer that plays the right side built for todays NHL (Actually sit down and watch a Caps game, you will be surprised at how good both players are despite lower point totals)
Mittelstadt is playing average (hard to say he making a huge impact) & Jost has spent time in the AHL this season. Which is why i feel not all 1st round picks are going to be impactful right away (case and point Puljujarvi)

If EDM is sitting six and Dach or Cozens is not available i make the trade. Because while i agree top picks can help sooner than later not all top picks pan out. The Oil do not develop well and i would love to see a 2019/2020 playoff bound team.

Couple things: 1. Do you know what an analogy is? 2. Are you suggesting that Paul Byron & Victor Mete = Bowey & Burakovsky ? 3. Also are you suggesting that either of those prospects are already 70+ player in the NHL?
Because neither is true

Burakovsky can only provide speed with some scoring=Paul Byron type, victor Mete has the same impact on D like Bowey. The 5-6th Overall will be a 1st or 2nd line elite center, Podolskin=Kuznetsov, Cozens~Toews/Danault