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Duchene and Simmonds

Created by: Willian_Cardoso
Team: 2018-19 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 14, 2019
Published: Feb. 14, 2019
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Maybe with just one of this trades (probably Duchene's), Boston would get enough chance to face and beat any team in playoffs. But if I were their GM, I'd tried to do at least two of them. It'd make sense for all of the 4 teams.
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. Simmonds, Wayne ($750,000 retained)
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Nordström, Joakim
  2. Senyshyn, Zach
  3. 2019 4th round pick (NYR)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (BOS)
2.
BOS
  1. Duchene, Matt ($1,500,000 retained)
OTT
  1. Vaakanainen, Urho
  2. Wagner, Chris
  3. 2019 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
If Boston reaches SC Finals, Ottawa will get their 2019 3rd pick as compensation.
3.
CAR
  1. Backes, David ($3,000,000 retained)
  2. Vladar, Daniel
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
If Boston reaches SC Finals, Carolina gets their 2019 Flyers 3rd pick as well.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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Logo of the PHI
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2020
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Logo of the BOS
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the BOS
2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$78,508,168$774,000$3,145,000$991,832
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$872,500$872,500 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,225,000$3,225,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,275,000$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$125,000$125K)
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$742,500$742,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$5,000,000$5,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$789,167$789,167
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:24 p.m.
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That does not get you either player and Backes will never waive NMC for Ottawa.
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Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:25 p.m.
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Why would Ottawa ever do that???
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
That does not get you either player and Backes will never waive NMC for Ottawa.


Maybe you're right about Duchene...but as for Simmonds, any team which offers more than that for him would be stupid. He's a rental and he's not having his best season.

As for Duchene, what do you suggest to offer to get him?
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:31 p.m.
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Why would Ottawa ever do that???


If you don't mind, give me a suggestion to what offer to get Duchene, then.
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:34 p.m.
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Not even close to enough to get Duchene. Backes would never go there and if he did you would have to include another 1st rd pick.

Simmonds has not been good this year. A lot of GMs are steering away from trading for him. I think its time we stop imagining a trade for him. (unless insanely cheap)

I think its more likely that the Bs trade for a 3C than anything else. Something like JT Compher, Devin Shore, Tierney, Granlund, maybe even Brassard.
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
Maybe you're right about Duchene...but as for Simmonds, any team which offers more than that for him would be stupid. He's a rental and he's not having his best season.

As for Duchene, what do you suggest to offer to get him?


It’s the deadline everyone overpays.

I agree. I don’t think he’s worth more than a pair of 2nds. But they are asking for more and still are considering re-signing him.

Rental is not a detractor, most players moved at the deadline are. Duchesne is as well. The team selling does not care if you sign him or not. They still want value in return.
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
If you don't mind, give me a suggestion to what offer to get Duchene, then.


It would probably take Vaakanainen, JKF, 1st rd pick. No Backs included. And somehow you'd have to shed Cap. Maybe you give them Krug JFK and a 2nd and they flip him or something like that. They want a guaranteed return though.
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:41 p.m.
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It would probably take Vaakanainen, JKF, 1st rd pick. No Backs included. And somehow you'd have to shed Cap. Maybe you give them Krug JFK and a 2nd and they flip him or something like that. They want a guaranteed return though.


I'm not a Boston fan, but I'm sure they wouldn't trade Krug to get a rental. Even Duchene. Anyway, your first idea could work. Thanks.
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
It’s the deadline everyone overpays.

I agree. I don’t think he’s worth more than a pair of 2nds. But they are asking for more and still are considering re-signing him.

Rental is not a detractor, most players moved at the deadline are. Duchesne is as well. The team selling does not care if you sign him or not. They still want value in return.


Disagree. To be a rental is a detractor indeed. But you're right about the teams usually overpay in deadline. But, as I said, It'd be insane to offer more that I did. I'd never do that...
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: mcordaro
Not even close to enough to get Duchene. Backes would never go there and if he did you would have to include another 1st rd pick.

Simmonds has not been good this year. A lot of GMs are steering away from trading for him. I think its time we stop imagining a trade for him. (unless insanely cheap)

I think its more likely that the Bs trade for a 3C than anything else. Something like JT Compher, Devin Shore, Tierney, Granlund, maybe even Brassard.


Another 1st to get a rental it'd be insane. I'd never do that. As for Simmonds, I agree he's not having his best season, but he worths a shot, specially in a team like Boston, which fits him pretty well. A 3C would be another good idea for them. Idk if they could get JT or Tierney. Devin Shore is a good two-way player, but his offensive skills aren't good enough to improve Boston's offense as they need. So, Brassard would make more sense to me.
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:49 p.m.
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I personally think it is a waste of time. Together they don't get us the cup and now at seasons end you lost two good prospects and a first pick.
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
Maybe you're right about Duchene...but as for Simmonds, any team which offers more than that for him would be stupid. He's a rental and he's not having his best season.

As for Duchene, what do you suggest to offer to get him?


Well for starters, you take out Backes. That's a just a Cap Dump and BOS would need to do a completely separate trade if they want to to get rid of that contract.

Secondly, you need to add a legitimate prospect. Lauzon ain't it.

So a 1st and a legitimate prospect and maybe a roster player (bottom 6 guy)
Feb. 14, 2019 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
Disagree. To be a rental is a detractor indeed. But you're right about the teams usually overpay in deadline. But, as I said, It'd be insane to offer more that I did. I'd never do that...


It’s a detractor for the receiving team. The seller however does not care. They will push for full value + regardless.
Feb. 14, 2019 at 1:23 p.m.
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I personally think it is a waste of time. Together they don't get us the cup and now at seasons end you lost two good prospects and a first pick.


If you really thinks like that, then you're underestimating your team. I disagree. Duchene would give Boston an immediate offensive impact. He's a speedster two-way C/RW. So, get him would get some offensive flexibility to Boston, which could put him as their 2nd C or 2nd RW. As for Simmonds, he's a grinder who can shoot the puck and also play in front of the net. A type of player which Bruins loves to use. He'd fit pretty well for them. And finally as for the prospects and first pick, a "win now" team like Boston cannot care about that. Look at Pens, for example. We get rid most of our best prospects and our picks every single season to get some key players, like Kessel and Schultz. As for result we won back to back cups.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
It’s a detractor for the receiving team. The seller however does not care. They will push for full value + regardless.


They'll try to. But not always they can get what they want to. The fact is players has their value lower when they're rental. For example, Ottawa could got much more from Karlsson's trade, if they'd traded him one season earlier. That's for sure.
 
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