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(EDM/VAN) - Spooner for Gagner

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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:16
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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:17
#2
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The deal is literally Ass for even more Ass Edmonton wins this.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:22
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I like Gagne, he’s a 30-40 point centre. Edmonton wins this trade. No doubt.
Feb 16, 2019 at 12:22
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Gagner has looked good while playing for Toronto this year. In the AHL. For my Marlies. It’s highly unlikely he’ll continue at a PPG pace in the NHL but he certainly still has skill and, for whatever reason, he fell out of favour in Vancouver despite 2 decent seasons recently.

It’s hard to pick a “winner” (Gagner has a better track record in the NHL to date, but is a bit older) but I can say the definitive loser in the trade is the Toronto Marlies who lose another Top-6 fwd (we lost Grundstrom in the Muzzin grade) as I am pretty sure Gagner will get a long look (again) in Edmonton. Wishing Sam all the best in his return.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:28
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I haven't caught Gagner playing for the last couple seasons, so I didn't really understand why he fell out of favor in Vancouver. Any Vancouver fans that can shed some light? He seemed to be doing well enough production wise to at least warrant a roster spot, even if he perhaps wasn't playing as well defensively. Is it a commitment/attitude or work ethic issue?

Might be a good move for Edmonton. Any skill they can get on the wings without adding additional salary is a plus.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:35
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The Gagner-Kassian dream
Feb 16, 2019 at 12:38
#7
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Eberle for Gagne. Thats just sad.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:39
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So let’s look at this...

EDM goes from:
Eberle - Strome - Spooner - Gagner

Wow you guys have a ****ty GM!
Feb 16, 2019 at 12:46
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Quoting: Missouri
So let’s look at this...

EDM goes from:
Eberle - Strome - Spooner - Gagner

Wow you guys have a ****ty GM!


Had* Penis Chiarelli at his finest...
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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:52
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@Hedman77 @ConnorMcHellebuyck2 This deal is like asking someone to break your five dollar bill and they give you a 4 quarters instead.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:53
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And the next deal is gonna be lucic for eriksson plus a second haha
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Feb 16, 2019 at 12:54
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
@Hedman77 @ConnorMcHellebuyck2 This deal is like asking someone to break your five dollar bill and they give you a 4 quarters instead.


Yeah Vancouver could have at least taken him off waivers if they wanted him
Feb 16, 2019 at 12:58
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
@Hedman77 @ConnorMcHellebuyck2 This deal is like asking someone to break your five dollar bill and they give you a 4 quarters instead.


Quoting: Hedman77
Yeah Vancouver could have at least taken him off waivers if they wanted him


Here is your choice turd burger or dog sh*t or you can have both...that's your choice lol.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 1:04
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Gagner's come full circle now.
Feb 16, 2019 at 1:18
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my god, time is a flat circle when it comes to the Oilers.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 1:25
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Quoting: Missouri
So let’s look at this...

EDM goes from:
Eberle - Strome - Spooner - Gagner

Wow you guys have a ****ty GM!


Now how funny would it be if Eberle signs back in Edmonton as an UFA this summer? You wouldn't be laughing than.

Also months ago I suggested the Gagner for Spooner trade in an ACGM, even before Spooner was sent to the minors. Though this trade is as close to a saw off as you can get, so no big deal that my GM thoughts came true.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 1:26
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Quoting: ricochetii
I haven't caught Gagner playing for the last couple seasons, so I didn't really understand why he fell out of favor in Vancouver. Any Vancouver fans that can shed some light? He seemed to be doing well enough production wise to at least warrant a roster spot, even if he perhaps wasn't playing as well defensively. Is it a commitment/attitude or work ethic issue?

Might be a good move for Edmonton. Any skill they can get on the wings without adding additional salary is a plus.


I can only speak to his play in Toronto, and over the course of the season I’ve seen him become a more complete 200ft player - he even started backchecking and blocking shots in recent months (I’m not joking). Paired with his natural scoring ability, he was regularly one of our best forwards. I guess he realized he needs to do more in order to play in the NHL today.

Perhaps his time in Toronto with the Marlies was a wake-up call and he’ll finally actualize his 1st round pick potential. He’s never quite panned our but the skills and speed are still there.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 1:33
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Now how funny would it be if Eberle signs back in Edmonton as an UFA this summer? You wouldn't be laughing than.

Also months ago I suggested the Gagner for Spooner trade in an ACGM, even before Spooner was sent to the minors. Though this trade is as close to a saw off as you can get, so no big deal that my GM thoughts came true.


I think this proves that real NHL GMs do look to CapFriendly for ideas smile
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Feb 16, 2019 at 1:37
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Benning is a moron. This deal does nothing for Vancouver and only helps Edmonton.
Feb 16, 2019 at 1:51
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Did the 'Nucks retain money on Gagner? Is that confirmed?
Feb 16, 2019 at 1:56
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Quoting: Pete
And the next deal is gonna be lucic for eriksson plus a second haha


Lucic for Okposo.

Quoting: rebecca
I can only speak to his play in Toronto, and over the course of the season I’ve seen him become a more complete 200ft player - he even started backchecking and blocking shots in recent months (I’m not joking). Paired with his natural scoring ability, he was regularly one of our best forwards. I guess he realized he needs to do more in order to play in the NHL today.

Perhaps his time in Toronto with the Marlies was a wake-up call and he’ll finally actualize his 1st round pick potential. He’s never quite panned our but the skills and speed are still there.


So attitude is fine or at least improved, and he's showing more commitment to defense. Both good things for the Oilers.
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Feb 16, 2019 at 2:24
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Quoting: rebecca
I can only speak to his play in Toronto, and over the course of the season I’ve seen him become a more complete 200ft player - he even started backchecking and blocking shots in recent months (I’m not joking). Paired with his natural scoring ability, he was regularly one of our best forwards. I guess he realized he needs to do more in order to play in the NHL today.

Perhaps his time in Toronto with the Marlies was a wake-up call and he’ll finally actualize his 1st round pick potential. He’s never quite panned our but the skills and speed are still there.


Ganger speed tears of joy
Feb 16, 2019 at 5:43
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Quoting: rebecca
Gagner has looked good while playing for Toronto this year. In the AHL. For my Marlies. It’s highly unlikely he’ll continue at a PPG pace in the NHL but he certainly still has skill and, for whatever reason, he fell out of favour in Vancouver despite 2 decent seasons recently.

It’s hard to pick a “winner” (Gagner has a better track record in the NHL to date, but is a bit older) but I can say the definitive loser in the trade is the Toronto Marlies who lose another Top-6 fwd (we lost Grundstrom in the Muzzin grade) as I am pretty sure Gagner will get a long look (again) in Edmonton. Wishing Sam all the best in his return.


How was his offensive ability with the Marlies? Was he playing as C or RW?
Feb 16, 2019 at 6:22
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This is like when you trade a browning banana for stale goldfish in the elementary school cafeteria.
Feb 16, 2019 at 6:31
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At first I thought this was great because I thought Ganger only had a year left on his contract. But no, he still has another year like Spooner, but 1 mil cheaper. So Oilers save 1mil in cap space and basically improve slightly because Ganger is more likely to fit/play hard for a role on the team. He's going to get a solid opportunity to play big minutes (probably try him out as a center or a RW with one of the 3 big centers). Great chance for him to turn his career around. But I would have preferred Spooner being traded for a draft pick or a prospect, simply to just open up the cap space.
 
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