Jets have no interest in having both of because of the price. Anyway little is playing really well right now, so brassard or staal (I know about the ntc) might be a better choice. However if either is costing a 1st we just go for Hayes. How about 1st, 6th, petan/virtanen /green for Hayes (50%)

As a rangers fan. I’d hate to trade Hayes and zucc together. I’d rather do Hayes (50%) for wpg’s 1st and Samburg. Then trade zucc to Calgary for a 1st +. Kreider only getting traded if someone goes all-in.

NSH accepts. Done deal. Send Kreider over before you change your minds.

Yeah I mean Tolvy is not enough for Kreider. It's probably Tolvy + Fabbro + 1st.

Dude, can at least *try* to be realistic for once

Which part isn't realistic??

The Kreider trade is basically the Patches trade but because Kreider is younger/healthier/Longer term it's a 1st instead of a 2nd.

Would you rather Tolvy + Fiala + 2nd?

Not sure which part you're not seeing about Kreider being an above average 1LW.

Tied with Kane and Pasta in Goal rate over the last 3 years...This is how much a guy like that costs lol.

Kreider is really good but I think you're underrating Nashville's prospects. You like K'Andre and Kravtsov, they like Tolvanen and Fabbro. Not gonna get into who is better between all those guys, just saying that they might not want to move their two best (and only heh) prospects for 2 yrs of a winger even if he is a top line guy.

Sure that's fair if that team doesn't want to do that. But that doesn't change the cost. Though if you're going to accurately compare prospects, it should be league relevant not team relevant.

I wouldn't compare Fabbro and Tolvanen to Kravtsov and Miller though... Tolvanen has the exact same stats as Lias Andersson and Fabbro is just Neal Pionk but younger...(Both great! but please don't compare) Whereas Kravtsov is basically Tarasenko/Kuznetsov and Miller is basically Werenski. We can go over the numbers but I'm hoping you'll just accept that and save me some work.

I'd gladly trade Kreider for say Bokk and Kostin though they're the 3rd/4th best guys in the Blues system.

or Heponiemi and Tippett even though they're the 3rd/4th best guys in the Panthers system

or Brannstrom and Elvenes even though they're the 2nd/4th best guys in the Vegas system

or

You get the idea.

I dont wanna get into it either lol but tolvanen in his d+1 yr was like .73 pts/gm in the KHL and Kravtsov is around .42. I'm just saying that there isnt much precedent for a team to give up two top prospects and a 1st for a winger without much term who's in his late 20s. TBH those type of prospects dont get moved hardly at all.

I do agree that it's not worthwhile to rank prospects relative to their team's pool, but I still think you're selling the NSH guys short.

That's fair. I'd say Nashville's system makes a lot more sense for a guy like Zucc (Fabbro + 2nd) or Hayes (Fabbro + 1st or Tolvanen straight)