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3 way with Ottawa and Boston

Created by: Csick123
Team: 2018-19 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2019
Published: Feb. 24, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Zboril, Jakub
  2. 2019 1st round pick (BOS)
2.
OTT
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. Zboril, Jakub
  3. 2019 1st round pick (NYI)
  4. 2019 1st round pick (BOS)
  5. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Ottawa gets 2020 2nd only if Stone re-signs
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$79,500,000$67,740,833$0$612,500$11,759,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
C
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 6
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Feb. 24, 2019 at 1:52 p.m.
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I feel like at the price of Zboril and a 1st Boston would rather add any extra value and just take Stone themselves. Interesting take though!
Feb. 24, 2019 at 1:59 p.m.
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NYI is not getting Stone without one of Dobson or Whalstrom going back.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:07 p.m.
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Make the 1st a 2nd that becomes a 1st if he re-signs.....deal.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
NYI is not getting Stone without one of Dobson or Whalstrom going back.


It's extremely unlikely they pull a prospect of that caliber for a rental. They likely will pull two prospects expected to be middle-6 forwards or 2nd pairing d-men, a first, and a conditional first on whether he resigns or not. Winnipeg is looking like they might be offering a Top-6 forward prospect and a 1st. Expecting anything else will leave you disappointed.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:17 p.m.
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It's extremely unlikely they pull a prospect of that caliber for a rental. They likely will pull two prospects expected to be middle-6 forwards or 2nd pairing d-men, a first, and a conditional first on whether he resigns or not. Winnipeg is looking like the might be offering a Top-6 forward prospect and a 1st. Expecting anything else will leave you disappointed.


Stone is on a whole other level to Duchene or any players traded so far this year and would not be a pure rental on NYI as they have the space to keep him.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:27 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
Stone is on a whole other level to Duchene or any players traded so far this year and would not be a pure rental on NYI as they have the space to keep him.


Still, No rental has ever pulled a top prospect of Dobson's caliber.
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Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: KrisBeKreame
Still, No rental has ever pulled a top prospect of Dobson's caliber.


if the team can sign him and the player is open to re-signing, yes.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:48 p.m.
Quoting: athrin
Stone is on a whole other level to Duchene or any players traded so far this year and would not be a pure rental on NYI as they have the space to keep him.


I agree that Stone is significantly better, but break down what they actually got in return for Duchene. They basically upgraded a bottom-6 prospect in Bergman for a middle-6 prospect in Abramov, so a slight upgrade there. Then they got Davidsson who is still a big question mark as to what he will actually pan out to be, a middle to late first round pick, and another conditional 1st. You basically got:
-Swapped for a slightly improved prospect
-A middle of the road prospect
-A late first round pick
-A 50/50 shot at another first

I think Stone will bring in:
-2 Solid prospects
-A Late First
-A 3rd pick that becomes a 1st if Stone resigns

I would call that a much better return than what Duchene got.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:47 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
if the team can sign him and the player is open to re-signing, yes.


If it is known he will re-sign he will get a HUGE return. So far though he has been pretty non-committal, until that changes he is viewed as strictly a rental.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Ctgoalie
If it is known he will re-sign he will get a HUGE return. So far though he has been pretty non-committal, until that changes he is viewed as strictly a rental.


seems OTT has giving permission to teams to talk to Stone and his agent about possible extensions.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 3:10 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
seems OTT has giving permission to teams to talk to Stone and his agent about possible extensions.


If thats the case and he agrees to some kind of terms I would assume that his value would start at 2019 1st, 2020 1st, an "A" prospect, and a "B" prospect. I dont know other teams prospect systems well but a package similar to:
-2019 1st
-2020 1st
-Studnicka/Vaakanainen
-Zboril

I don't think Boston would be willing to send that package, but I would assume he would pull in a similar return.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 3:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Ctgoalie
If thats the case and he agrees to some kind of terms I would assume that his value would start at 2019 1st, 2020 1st, an "A" prospect, and a "B" prospect. I dont know other teams prospect systems well but a package similar to:
-2019 1st
-2020 1st
-Studnicka/Vaakanainen
-Zboril

I don't think Boston would be willing to send that package, but I would assume he would pull in a similar return.


Stone with a extension starts with 2 first a top prospect and an A prospect, maybe more.
Feb. 24, 2019 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
Stone with a extension starts with 2 first a top prospect and an A prospect, maybe more.


Maybe if you can find enough bidders in the next 23.5 hours. Not many teams are willing to pay that price and teams aren't going to bid against themselves.

*Edit*-Bidders that Stone is willing to extend with
Feb. 24, 2019 at 3:51 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
seems OTT has giving permission to teams to talk to Stone and his agent about possible extensions.


Really, because there have been tweets that say the opposite. Hence all the conditional picks being proposed.
 
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