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Team: 2018-19 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 25, 2019
Published: Feb. 25, 2019
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  1. Kyrou, Jordan
  2. Sanford, Zachary
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
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Feb. 25, 2019 at 2:55 p.m.
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Branstrom still has more value than anyone listed here, sanford and lindberg aren't too different.
Feb. 25, 2019 at 2:56 p.m.
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Yup, it's weird how we're ahead of VGK in the standings and yet our GM (and the media) seems to think that VGK was more of a contender... this is a very strange deadline for us. We were so bad that I think we forgot that we've actually been really good as of late. Not sure what the right move is, but Army clearly isn't confident in this group still...
Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:01 p.m.
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Branstrom still has more value than anyone listed here, sanford and lindberg aren't too different.


Kyrou has equal value to Brannstrom.
Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:02 p.m.
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Brannstrom is better than Kyrou but only marginally
Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:02 p.m.
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Yup, it's weird how we're ahead of VGK in the standings and yet our GM (and the media) seems to think that VGK was more of a contender... this is a very strange deadline for us. We were so bad that I think we forgot that we've actually been really good as of late. Not sure what the right move is, but Army clearly isn't confident in this group still...


Yeah I'm pretty baffled - like if salary was the issue you could find a taker for Bouwmeester (Calgary?) or Steen (anyone?) I'm sure. Just really confusing cause move your UFAs if Army doesn't believe in this group, or add a top 6/9 guy if you do believe. Standing pat is odd, but oh well.
Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:03 p.m.
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Brannstrom is better than Kyrou but only marginally


Eh, some outlets have Brannstrom 1 or 2 spots higher on rankings, others have him a few spots lower. For instance Pronman has Kyrou as the 6th best prospect in the NHL and Brannstrom as 19th.
Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:07 p.m.
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Eh, some outlets have Brannstrom 1 or 2 spots higher on rankings, others have him a few spots lower. For instance Pronman has Kyrou as the 6th best prospect in the NHL and Brannstrom as 19th.


I like Brannstrom better than Kyrou honestly.
Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:09 p.m.
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Yup, it's weird how we're ahead of VGK in the standings and yet our GM (and the media) seems to think that VGK was more of a contender... this is a very strange deadline for us. We were so bad that I think we forgot that we've actually been really good as of late. Not sure what the right move is, but Army clearly isn't confident in this group still...


One word, goaltending. If Armstrong was confident in Allen or Binnington to get the job done he would be more willing to pull the trigger on a move. Plus, he was hell bent on not giving up Kyrou which is what it would have taken.
Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:11 p.m.
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One word, goaltending. If Armstrong was confident in Allen or Binnington to get the job done he would be more willing to pull the trigger on a move. Plus, he was hell bent on not giving up Kyrou which is what it would have taken.


I wouldn't trade Kyrou for a rental either, but now that it looks like Stone is signing an extension, it's a little disappointing. And yeah, I think it's the goalies, plus Army probably isn't looking at the last 20 games, he's looking at the last 80 or so... not sure which is the right move. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we win 75% of our remaining games or if we lose 75% of them... this is the same group of guys that couldn't put 60 minutes of hockey together for months earlier this season...
Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:34 p.m.
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I wouldn't trade Kyrou for a rental either, but now that it looks like Stone is signing an extension, it's a little disappointing. And yeah, I think it's the goalies, plus Army probably isn't looking at the last 20 games, he's looking at the last 80 or so... not sure which is the right move. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we win 75% of our remaining games or if we lose 75% of them... this is the same group of guys that couldn't put 60 minutes of hockey together for months earlier this season...


He's looking at the whole year which I think is smart. In fact I'm one of the few who was saying even though the Blues are winning there are times where we cant keep up, which is true, but we weathered the storm enough. Now, I'm not an expert, dont get paid to be one, but if I notice that sort of thing, I'm sure Armstrong did too. But goaltending is what killed the chance of a deal I think
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Feb. 25, 2019 at 3:38 p.m.
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He's looking at the whole year which I think is smart. In fact I'm one of the few who was saying even though the Blues are winning there are times where we cant keep up, which is true, but we weathered the storm enough. Now, I'm not an expert, dont get paid to be one, but if I notice that sort of thing, I'm sure Armstrong did too. But goaltending is what killed the chance of a deal I think


Yeah, i've always appreciated Army for being a realist. And I wasn't expecting fireworks at the deadline. But after seeing some of the prices paid for quality rentals, and then seeing all of the adds in the central/pacific, my FOMO has reached a peak lol. It will be fine, we can head toward the playoffs without lofty expectations and fix some of the lingering issues in the offseason.

by the way, wtf is Fiala for Granlund straight up? That's borderline collusion from the (ex-NSH) MIN GM haha.
Feb. 25, 2019 at 4:29 p.m.
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Yeah, i've always appreciated Army for being a realist. And I wasn't expecting fireworks at the deadline. But after seeing some of the prices paid for quality rentals, and then seeing all of the adds in the central/pacific, my FOMO has reached a peak lol. It will be fine, we can head toward the playoffs without lofty expectations and fix some of the lingering issues in the offseason.

by the way, wtf is Fiala for Granlund straight up? That's borderline collusion from the (ex-NSH) MIN GM haha.


At the very least, Blues could have matched that Simmonds deal. Honestly, I would have coughed up Kyrou, Sanford(I think Sundqvist is a better equivalent for Lindberg).
Yeah no kidding. I don't understand that move one bit. I know Fenton was the guy who pushed Poile to draft Fiala in the first place. Kind of like Lucic/Chiarelli, but Fiala will come in cheaper and moving Granlund creates cap space.
Feb. 25, 2019 at 6:28 p.m.
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At the very least, Blues could have matched that Simmonds deal. Honestly, I would have coughed up Kyrou, Sanford(I think Sundqvist is a better equivalent for Lindberg).
Yeah no kidding. I don't understand that move one bit. I know Fenton was the guy who pushed Poile to draft Fiala in the first place. Kind of like Lucic/Chiarelli, but Fiala will come in cheaper and moving Granlund creates cap space.


Simmonds would have been Fabbri + 4th probably?
Feb. 25, 2019 at 6:36 p.m.
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Simmonds would have been Fabbri + 4th probably?


Fabbri or again Sundqvist. Probably Fabbri though.
Feb. 26, 2019 at 10:52 a.m.
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Fabbri or again Sundqvist. Probably Fabbri though.


Not convinced id do that TBH. I don't think Simmonds is that good anymore
Feb. 26, 2019 at 4:34 p.m.
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Not convinced id do that TBH. I don't think Simmonds is that good anymore


At this point in time, he's better than Fabbri. Blues have plenty of young forwards
Feb. 26, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
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At this point in time, he's better than Fabbri. Blues have plenty of young forwards


Totally disagree - especially after tonight.
Feb. 27, 2019 at 7:34 a.m.
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Totally disagree - especially after tonight.


Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Fabbri. Now the only way Blues can even get Simmonds is to sign him in the off season. I hope we can keep Fabbri, dump Steen and sign Simmonds. That's my ideal move.
Feb. 27, 2019 at 9:24 a.m.
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Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Fabbri. Now the only way Blues can even get Simmonds is to sign him in the off season. I hope we can keep Fabbri, dump Steen and sign Simmonds. That's my ideal move.


Oh man I'd hate to sign Simmonds this offseason. He's going to ask for a lot of money, decent amount of term. He's on a huge decline and isn't going to be much better than a third liner going forward. Signing him would be a huge mistake IMO.
Feb. 27, 2019 at 9:36 a.m.
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Oh man I'd hate to sign Simmonds this offseason. He's going to ask for a lot of money, decent amount of term. He's on a huge decline and isn't going to be much better than a third liner going forward. Signing him would be a huge mistake IMO.


I dont think he'll command that much. Clearly his value isnt that high considering what he got at the deadline. He could sign a Perron type deal which isn't too bad.
Feb. 27, 2019 at 10:01 a.m.
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I dont think he'll command that much. Clearly his value isnt that high considering what he got at the deadline. He could sign a Perron type deal which isn't too bad.


His points/60, game score and many other aspects of his play show he's a bottom 6 forward right now. We have plenty of better forwards at the moment and if we go for a FA forward, might as well get a top one.
Feb. 27, 2019 at 10:04 a.m.
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His points/60, game score and many other aspects of his play show he's a bottom 6 forward right now. We have plenty of better forwards at the moment and if we go for a FA forward, might as well get a top one.


I'm with @BluesGetTheCup here, Simmonds would've been a nice deadline rental but he's not someone I would want to target long-term. Too many guys have signed the contract he's about to sign and have fallen off the map.
Feb. 27, 2019 at 10:04 a.m.
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His points/60, game score and many other aspects of his play show he's a bottom 6 forward right now. We have plenty of better forwards at the moment and if we go for a FA forward, might as well get a top one.


A top forward would be nice, but they'll cost even more. Part of the reason Simmonds is having a down year is because they put him on the 3rd line thanks in part to JVR. Put him in a top 6 role and he'll be better. Again, that's if we couldget him at a decent rate.
Feb. 27, 2019 at 10:07 a.m.
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I'm with @BluesGetTheCup here, Simmonds would've been a nice deadline rental but he's not someone I would want to target long-term. Too many guys have signed the contract he's about to sign and have fallen off the map.


I wouldn't do it for 5 or 6 years and 5 to 6 mil per. But a 3 or 4 year deal at 4 I'd be okay with it. Especially with the pending expansion draft happening.
Feb. 27, 2019 at 10:16 a.m.
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I wouldn't do it for 5 or 6 years and 5 to 6 mil per. But a 3 or 4 year deal at 4 I'd be okay with it. Especially with the pending expansion draft happening.


That's the concern, though. Someone will probably offer him the 5-6 yr term and be stuck with him. You know we're all counting down the days of the Steen contract and he is the type of player that projects with way more longevity than a Simmonds-type. For a Bozak-type deal - 5m x 3 - I guess he's an option, but we could probably do better building from within.
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