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What an absolute clownshow of an organization

Created by: BeterChiarelli
Initial Creation Date: Feb 25, 2019
Published: Feb 25 at 3:29 pm
Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
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That's two deadlines in a row that the Oilers have failed to get anything back for expiring contracts in years they aren't playoff teams.

I wasn't expecting a handsome return on **anything** but why couldn't they have loaded up on late picks or C-prospects? Absolutely ridiculous. Everyone running that team should be shot by sunset.
Buyouts
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
  • Eric Gryba: $300,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
Buried
  • Brandon Manning: $1,225,000 ($2,250,000)
  • Al Montoya: $37,500 ($1,062,500)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
2019
EDM
EDM
NYI
EDM
EDM
EDM
2020
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$79,500,000$78,053,249$0$2,500,000$1,446,751
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$675,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 8
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 7
EDM
Currie, Josh
$687,500
RW, C
UFA - 2
EDM
Rieder, Tobias
$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Brodziak, Kyle
$1,150,000
C
UFA - 2
EDM
Gagner, Sam
$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
EDM
Cave, Colby
$675,000
C
RFA - 2
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$650,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 5
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 3
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$2,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$3,200,000
LD
RFA - 2
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 3
EDM
Stolarz, Anthony
$761,250
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Sekera, Andrej
$5,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
EDM
Benning, Matthew
$1,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Petrovic, Alex
$1,950,000
RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Rattie, Ty
$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Gravel, Kevin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Malone, Brad
$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1

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Feb 25 at 3:29
#1
Joined: May 2017
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better than OTT trading a top 5 RW in the league for a 3rd/4tf liner a 2nd and a top prospect......
Feb 25 at 3:31
#2
Thread Starter
Hey Beter
Joined: Oct 2017
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Quoting: athrin
better than OTT trading a top 5 RW in the league for a 3rd/4tf liner a 2nd and a top prospect......


Something is always better than nothing. Absolutely they should have kept Stone, but a defence core built around Brannstrom and Chabot is going to be scary good until Ottawa refuses to pay them too.
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Feb 25 at 3:32
#3
Joined: Apr 2017
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Who did you want to give away? I don't see many expiring contracts...
Feb 25 at 3:33
#4
Thread Starter
Hey Beter
Joined: Oct 2017
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Quoting: BluesBandit
Who did you want to give away? I don't see many expiring contracts...


Chiasson, Rieder, and Petrovic all have *some* form of value. Sell Brodziak, Kassian, and Benning for literally whatever you can get for them. Hell, Gravel might have had value as a depth pickup too. Like anything would have been better than sitting on their hands.
Feb 25 at 3:37
#5
bang bang
Joined: Nov 2017
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feel your pain... deep breathe ... mcdavid will save u
Feb 25 at 3:49
#6
Vinnylou
Joined: Jun 2016
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It was a buyer's market. There were far better options than our ****ty players. We still need NHL bodies. Leave that ahl team alone... It's tough to sell Reider who hasn't scored a ****ing goal lol. Chiasson I could've seen moved too. But I wanted Manning and benning gone. They both ****ing suck. Gravel is a good depth defenceman.. I am surprised they werent able to make a move.
Feb 25 at 3:53
#7
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,192
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Chiasson, Rieder, and Petrovic all have *some* form of value. Sell Brodziak, Kassian, and Benning for literally whatever you can get for them. Hell, Gravel might have had value as a depth pickup too. Like anything would have been better than sitting on their hands.


We're there any Reider, Chaisson, Petrovic type players traded for?? Definitely no Brodziak and Benning. Kassian for a 7th?? Not really franchise changing.

RNH, McDavid and Draisaitl were valuable forwards. Nurse, Klefboom and Larsson on d. Maybe a sell low on Pulj.
Feb 25 at 3:53
#8
Thread Starter
Hey Beter
Joined: Oct 2017
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Quoting: vinnylou
It was a buyer's market. There were far better options than our ****ty players. We still need NHL bodies. Leave that ahl team alone... It's tough to sell Reider who hasn't scored a ****ing goal lol. Chiasson I could've seen moved too. But I wanted Manning and benning gone. They both ****ing suck. Gravel is a good depth defenceman.. I am surprised they werent able to make a move.


This need to "leave the AHL team alone" is absurd to an extent. While I'm all for giving Benson and the kids big minutes, half-ish of the roster is still composed of AHL-only contracts. Callahan and Stanton are not major players on that team, call them up to fill spots. The Oilers have too many men on this roster currently, they easily could have moved guys for a 6th/7th and an AHL vet. It's routine mismanagement.
Feb 25 at 3:55
#9
Thread Starter
Hey Beter
Joined: Oct 2017
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Quoting: Riley816
We're there any Reider, Chaisson, Petrovic type players traded for?? Definitely no Brodziak and Benning. Kassian for a 7th?? Not really franchise changing.

RNH, McDavid and Draisaitl were valuable forwards. Nurse, Klefboom and Larsson on d. Maybe a sell low on Pulj.


Winnipeg just added like 3 of those kinds of players today.

There are players to be had in the late rounds, and while it does require actually developing those kids (something I'm confident this organization couldn't do to save its life), it still gives them that chance of finding a diamond in the rough.
Feb 25 at 3:59
#10
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 218
Likes: 46
Roflmao
Feb 25 at 4:00
#11
Pass it to Lucic
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 956
Likes: 290
Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Chiasson, Rieder, and Petrovic all have *some* form of value. Sell Brodziak, Kassian, and Benning for literally whatever you can get for them. Hell, Gravel might have had value as a depth pickup too. Like anything would have been better than sitting on their hands.


Chiasson gets you a 5th maybe....possible 4th
Rieder....has zero goals
Petrovic...has been a healthy scratch for awhile now.
Brodziak...see Chiasson's value.
Kassian....see Chiasson's value.
Benning....maybe a 7th.

honestly man, no way teams want/need these guys.
Feb 25 at 4:01
#12
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 218
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Must be frustrating

Dubas at least traded for nic petan and gave up nothing.

Petan could have been one of those hidden gems if given a chance in Edmonton.
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Feb 25 at 4:03
#13
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Hey Beter
Joined: Oct 2017
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Quoting: Herms17
Chiasson gets you a 5th maybe....possible 4th
Rieder....has zero goals
Petrovic...has been a healthy scratch for awhile now.
Brodziak...see Chiasson's value.
Kassian....see Chiasson's value.
Benning....maybe a 7th.

honestly man, no way teams want/need these guys.


Rieder is still a half-decent PK forward; for a 7th and at half his salary, you don't think there's a team that could slot him in on their 4th line? The Penguins just traded for Gudbranson, you can't tell me that ANY player in this league has zero value. I'd have taken a few additional late-round picks without question. It's all I wanted.

Like for reference, Matt Hendricks has been one of the worst players in the league this season and he brought in **something** of value to Minnesota. Like this team isn't competing for a playoff spot, why not get as many draft chances as possible, even if they're stupidly late picks?
Feb 25 at 4:23
#14
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 553
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Do you need a hug? Other teams also need to be calling you and/or picking up your calls. No one is going to do the Oilers a favor
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Feb 25 at 4:24
#15
Vinnylou
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
This need to "leave the AHL team alone" is absurd to an extent. While I'm all for giving Benson and the kids big minutes, half-ish of the roster is still composed of AHL-only contracts. Callahan and Stanton are not major players on that team, call them up to fill spots. The Oilers have too many men on this roster currently, they easily could have moved guys for a 6th/7th and an AHL vet. It's routine mismanagement.


I don't wanna see our ahl team lose there spark when they gotta come up to a super lack luster team in Edmonton where our coach puts the brakes on as soon as we have a 2-0 lead. They're rolling. They'll help some time in the future. I really hope they don't start winning games in garbage time for this " we'd like to finish on a good note , bring this into next season " . I'd just like to see some ****ty defenders gone that are not playing. No one's going to pay for our junk. I was hoping someone would have . Trust me, im with you on getting some picks and clearing space. But never worked out, so what can you do? Let the ****ty players walk in the off season . Resign Alex Chiasson for 850 k. Maybe 1 million. But the others I'd let walk and find a deal for someone either on the draft floor or offseason. I am curious about who our next GM is. Hopefully it's someone who has a ****ing clue.
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Feb 25 at 4:25
#16
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Hey Beter
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Quoting: CzechingOut
Do you need a hug? Other teams also need to be calling you and/or picking up your calls. No one is going to do the Oilers a favor


I need a beer. Or 12.

I'm not convinced they didn't do their due diligence. After Columbus snagged Duchene and Dingel, there wasn't a lot left for purely rental forwards. Chiasson at minimum could have gone somewheres.
Feb 25 at 6:20
#17
Joined: Jun 2016
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Quoting: athrin
better than OTT trading a top 5 RW in the league for a 3rd/4tf liner a 2nd and a top prospect......


lol and on every post with a Stone trade you claimed OTT would be getting like 2 - 1st round picks and 2 top tier prospects haha
Feb 25 at 6:32
#18
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Quoting: sabres1108
lol and on every post with a Stone trade you claimed OTT would be getting like 2 - 1st round picks and 2 top tier prospects haha


so did the hockey analysts.
Feb 25 at 6:37
#19
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Quoting: athrin
so did the hockey analysts.


maybe delusional senators analysts....everybody and their mother knows senators are too cheap and wont pay their good players...sens were behind the 8 ball nobody was going to sell the farm for a guy they could just sign on july 1
Feb 25 at 6:40
#20
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Quoting: sabres1108
maybe delusional senators analysts....everybody and their mother knows senators are too cheap and wont pay their good players...sens were behind the 8 ball nobody was going to sell the farm for a guy they could just sign on july 1


they offered Stone 5 year at over 10m per, he said it himself in the he wanted to be with a team committed to winning and it was almost if not ALL analysts.
 
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