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I DONT UNDERSTAND BERG AND OTTAWA

Created by: DomCholette
Initial Creation Date: Feb 25, 2019
Published: Feb 25 at 4:21 pm
Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
I have been crucified here with this type of offer!
VERY DISAPOINTED OF OUR GM
Trades
MTL
  1. Stone, Mark
VGK
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Brook, Josh
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
+/- same value as Lindberg, Brannstrom, 2nd (No 48th pick)
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Max Pacioretty: $450,000 (10%)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,600,000 ($4,625,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
2019
MTL
CBJ
MTL
MTL
ARI
CHI
EDM
MTL
WPG
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
WPG
MTL
MTL
MTL
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
25$79,500,000$77,461,309$0$2,682,500$2,038,691
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
VGK
Stone, Mark
$7,350,000
RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 5
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 3
MTL
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Byron, Paul
$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,750,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,650,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$839,166
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Hudon, Charles
$650,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
MTL
Weise, Dale
$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Niemi, Antti
$950,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Reilly, Mike
$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Benn, Jordie
$1,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Folin, Christian
$650,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb 25 at 4:22
#1
The evil stats guy
Joined: Jun 2018
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"+/- same value as Lindberg, Brannstrom, 2nd (No 48th pick)"

*Leans into mic*
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And it is not even close
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Feb 25 at 4:23
#2
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 370
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Not remotely close, Brannstrom is a top 10 player outside the NHL
Feb 25 at 4:25
#3
The evil stats guy
Joined: Jun 2018
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Quoting: datools
Not remotely close, Brannstrom is a top 10 player outside the NHL


Said to best best Dman not in NHL. Guy could be the next Karlsson.
Feb 25 at 4:25
#4
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 40
Likes: 4
Brannstrom is more highly touted than Brook. Also, I don't want the Habs to make this kind of trade, they're not Cup contenders like Vegas, better to see what we have in Brook and continue to build through the draft.
Feb 25 at 4:25
#5
exo2769
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 5,049
Likes: 1,245
The biggest problem is that Josh Brook and Eric Brannstrom are not close to equal value right now. I'm not saying Josh Brook is a bad asset, but right now Brannstrom is one of the best prospects in the world. A 19 year old kid that's produced in BOTH the highest levels of the world tournaments and in the AHL for the Wolves.
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Feb 25 at 4:26
#6
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,948
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delete this post. its obv u dont have a clue about hockey. brannstrom is an elite elite prospect
Feb 25 at 4:29
#7
Thread Starter
DomCholette
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,747
Likes: 425
Quoting: exo2769
The biggest problem is that Josh Brook and Eric Brannstrom are not close to equal value right now. I'm not saying Josh Brook is a bad asset, but right now Brannstrom is one of the best prospects in the world. A 19 year old kid that's produced in BOTH the highest levels of the world tournaments and in the AHL for the Wolves.


Armia is way better than Lindberg... etc...
Than take Romanov or Fleury or Olofsson, even Juulsen instead... the point is that the value was VERY LOW!
I don't understand that return
Feb 25 at 4:31
#8
Thread Starter
DomCholette
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,747
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
delete this post. its obv u dont have a clue about hockey. brannstrom is an elite elite prospect


I saw him play.. he is GREAT no doubt... type of Mete I understand... but Stone sign at 9M... they should at least got a 1st with it... don't tell me you couldn't offer more!
Feb 25 at 4:35
#9
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,948
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Quoting: DomCholette
I saw him play.. he is GREAT no doubt... type of Mete I understand... but Stone sign at 9M... they should at least got a 1st with it... don't tell me you couldn't offer more!


ur getting an elite level prospect, and prob the best defensemen in north america, whose not playing in the nhl. on top of that you're forced into a situation to trade him, so getting brannstrom out of that is pretty good considering the circumstances.
Feb 25 at 4:37
#10
Thread Starter
DomCholette
Joined: Jul 2017
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
ur getting an elite level prospect, and prob the best defensemen in north america, whose not playing in the nhl. on top of that you're forced into a situation to trade him, so getting brannstrom out of that is pretty good considering the circumstances.


Would you have trade Krug +2nd for Stone sign for 7years! Not even close... Ottawa got ripped
Feb 25 at 4:37
#11
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 15,847
Likes: 3,860
Brannstrom is similar to Suzuki, not Brook. (In terms of value)
Feb 25 at 4:47
#12
Big John T
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 468
Likes: 84
OTT takes VGK's offer over your MTL one 10/10 times.

Would you add Mete into the package?
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Feb 25 at 4:55
#13
exo2769
Joined: Jul 2015
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Quoting: F50marco
Brannstrom is similar to Suzuki, not Brook. (In terms of value)


I don't think so. Suzuki is closer to Brook than Brannstrom. Suzuki and Brook are SOLID prospects (I'd rate them both A- prospects) playing with other prospects and get invited to attend for world tournaments. Brannstrom is a 19 year old dman that's already proven he can play against men (made the AHL all-star team) AND was the team Captain for Sweden at worlds also producing big time in that tourney. Again, it's not to say either Brook or Suzuki can't become great players...it's just illustrating how much Brannstrom has proven himself already...and Forwards are hard to compare to Dmen. Dmen typically take longer, but there has been a trend that this could be reversing a bit.
Feb 25 at 6:18
#14
Joined: Apr 2017
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Quoting: DomCholette
Would you have trade Krug +2nd for Stone sign for 7years! Not even close... Ottawa got ripped


its funny that you're comparing krug to brannstrom LOL. go read some scouting journals bud
Feb 25 at 6:18
#15
Joined: Apr 2017
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Quoting: F50marco
Brannstrom is similar to Suzuki, not Brook. (In terms of value)


i think his value is higher, consideirng his progress at the wjc and the ahl
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Feb 25 at 8:28
#16
Thread Starter
DomCholette
Joined: Jul 2017
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Quoting: tatatavares
OTT takes VGK's offer over your MTL one 10/10 times.

Would you add Mete into the package?


You know what... totally YES
Lehkonen, Mete & 2nd for Stone anytime!
 
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