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Brady Tkachuk for 2020 OTT 1st Jack Hughes

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Team: 2018-19 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 25, 2019
Published: Feb. 25, 2019
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Hughes, Jack
3$925,000
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  1. Hughes, Jack
  2. 2019 1st round pick (OTT)
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2021
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24$79,500,000$66,975,595$0$4,695,000$12,524,405
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
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LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 2
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,975,000$1,975,000
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UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
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UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
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UFA - 1
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$3,937,500$3,937,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
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UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,900,000$5,900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,150,000$2,150,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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Feb. 25, 2019 at 5:42 p.m.
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Kyle from Chicago
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What
Feb. 25, 2019 at 5:47 p.m.
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This makes no sense
Feb. 25, 2019 at 6:18 p.m.
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Even if this made sense, the avs say no
Feb. 25, 2019 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
What


Quoting: coga16
This makes no sense


Quoting: JeffW
Even if this made sense, the avs say no


Im think he means "what if OTT gave COL the 4th pick in 2018 and kept the 2019 pick", not trading the 2019 pick for Brady Tkachuk after the fact
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Feb. 25, 2019 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman


Quoting: coga16
This makes no sense


Quoting: JeffW
Even if this made sense, the avs say no


With the benefit of hindsight, now that you've seen Brady Tkachuk in the NHL. Maybe you'd rather add him to the team, I don't know if there is a comparable type in this year's draft.

If there's no question the Avalanche would take Hughes, how do you feel about only an 18.5% chance of Hughes (50.6% outside the top 3) vs. 100% of Tkachuk
Feb. 25, 2019 at 6:38 p.m.
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for the record I thought Ottawa was stupid in keeping their 2018 4th overall pick at the time. It was obvious they would be worse the next year, and unable to hurry a rebuild

But it would have been interesting to see Ottawa get back their 1st round pick in a trade, before tanking and selling off all their best players. Obviously they didn't because it would have been too embarrassing, because COL is right at the edge of the playoffs and would love a lateral trade if it made them better now and because OTT doesn't care about being good until they move to a new rink
Feb. 25, 2019 at 6:39 p.m.
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Quoting: tatatavares
With the benefit of hindsight, now that you've seen Brady Tkachuk in the NHL. Maybe you'd rather add him to the team, I don't know if there is a comparable type in this year's draft.

If there's no question the Avalanche would take Hughes, how do you feel about only an 18.5% chance of Hughes (50.6% outside the top 3) vs. 100% of Tkachuk


I think I would have taken zadina still
Feb. 25, 2019 at 6:53 p.m.
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Quoting: tatatavares
With the benefit of hindsight, now that you've seen Brady Tkachuk in the NHL. Maybe you'd rather add him to the team, I don't know if there is a comparable type in this year's draft.

If there's no question the Avalanche would take Hughes, how do you feel about only an 18.5% chance of Hughes (50.6% outside the top 3) vs. 100% of Tkachuk


You take hughes over Brady 100 times out of a 100. You take Kakko over Brady as well. They just have a higher ceiling. Tkachuk is a going to be a good one but he just doesnt have the franchise ceiling that the other guys are labeled with
Feb. 25, 2019 at 7:10 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
You take hughes over Brady 100 times out of a 100. You take Kakko over Brady as well. They just have a higher ceiling. Tkachuk is a going to be a good one but he just doesnt have the franchise ceiling that the other guys are labeled with


Even now, it's a 35% chance of Hughes/Kakko or 65% chance it's somebody worse than Tkachuk (for argument's sake), and the kicker is that Tkachuk being 1 year older is more useful to Colorado

I think there definitely was a point in time where Colorado would have done a reverse-trade at some point this season. If you wouldn't do it now, I think that just says timing is everything. This is one trade people will follow-up on years later to see how much closer, or farther apart the outcomes were
Feb. 25, 2019 at 7:37 p.m.
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Even now, it's a 35% chance of Hughes/Kakko or 65% chance it's somebody worse than Tkachuk (for argument's sake), and the kicker is that Tkachuk being 1 year older is more useful to Colorado

I think there definitely was a point in time where Colorado would have done a reverse-trade at some point this season. If you wouldn't do it now, I think that just says timing is everything. This is one trade people will follow-up on years later to see how much closer, or farther apart the outcomes were


They are already more than happy with the Duchene return without the Sens 1st round pick, it’s a big win for them already so whatever happens it’s just a cherry on top of a
Cherry on their trade Sunday
 
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