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stamkos and trades. change

Created by: stevenc
Team: 2016-17 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: May 29, 2016
Published: May 29, 2016
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,500,000
2$2,500,000
5$4,500,000
4$4,000,000
2$900,000
2$800,000
2$750,000
4$4,000,000
2$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,000,000
7$10,000,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
NYR
    2017 3rd round pick
    rights to vatanen
    ANA
    1. Nash, Rick ($1,800,000 retained)
    2.
    NYR
      2017 2nd round pick
      2016 4th round pick
      3.
      NYR
        2016 1st round pick
        rights to Dumba
        rights to zucker
        4.
        NYR
        1. Tatar, Tomas
        Additional Details:
        2017 2nd round pick
        DET
        1. Klein, Kevin
        Additional Details:
        2017 3rd round pick
        Buyouts
        Retained Salary Transactions
        Buried
        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        21$74,000,000$71,000,000$0$0$3,000,000
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        C, LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        $10,000,000$10,000,000
        LW, C
        UFA - 8
        $3,150,000$3,150,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 3
        $4,500,000$4,500,000
        LW
        UFA - 4
        $3,000,000$3,000,000
        C, LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
        $925,000$925,000
        LW, RW, C
        UFA - 3
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        C
        UFA - 2
        $2,750,000$2,750,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        $800,000$800,000
        RW
        RFA - 1
        $650,000$650,000
        LW, C
        UFA - 1
        $950,000$950,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        $4,500,000$4,500,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 4
        $8,500,000$8,500,000
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 5
        $4,700,000$4,700,000
        LD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        RD
        UFA - 2
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        G
        UFA - 2
        $900,000$900,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        $925,000$925,000
        LD
        UFA - 2
        $700,000$700,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        $6,000,000$6,000,000
        LD
        UFA - 7

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        May 29, 2016 at 10:09 p.m.
        #1
        BringStevieHome
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        I'd love to know what you're smoking on the Tatar trade pal.
        May 29, 2016 at 11:06 p.m.
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        Nyifan12
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        Quoting: BringStevieHome
        I'd love to know what you're smoking on the Tatar trade pal.

        As bad as that is, how about the fact this guy wants a first round pick AND Dumba for Stepan? hahaha I don't know which one is worse, but then again, he is a Rangers fan and naturally clueless.
        May 29, 2016 at 11:17 p.m.
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        Dickie
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        Quoting: gmen8069
        Quoting: BringStevieHome
        I'd love to know what you're smoking on the Tatar trade pal.

        As bad as that is, how about the fact this guy wants a first round pick AND Dumba for Stepan? hahaha I don't know which one is worse, but then again, he is a Rangers fan and naturally clueless.


        Yeah, might get Dumba and 2012 3rd. Hrivik doesn't sweeten the deal much. Maybe a 4th. Plus, Wild have cap issues of their own. Would have to be Brodin both from a Wild cap perspective and if NYR want 2016 1st rd.
        May 29, 2016 at 11:38 p.m.
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        Dickie
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        Every trade is a little off here I think. Often, people overvalue RFAs. Vatanen is a perfect example of this. 5v5, Vatanen is 3rd/borderline 2nd pair. His real value is on PP. He won't get an offer sheet for a $ amount equal to what he would seek in arbitration given the mandated return (if Vatanen is targeting b/w $5-6 million per that means either a 1st rd and 3rd rd or a 1st, 2nd & 3rd) especially as signing team will be taking on a big $ LT contract. Better way to think about RFA trades is what would you give up if the target in question was signed pre-arbitration? In Vatanen's case, this likely means 5yrs at ~$5.5MM. Not such a bargain anymore given term, the fact the guy is more of a role player & cap consequences.
        So, I think you get more for Nash than you project. I'm also confused about the Dallas/Staal trade. He'd need to go to a team trying to stay above the floor and probably get a very speculative prospect in return.
        The Dumba + 1st return for Stepan isn't going to fly. I look to O'Reilly trade as a comp for this one. Avs got a 1st rd pick in the top half of the draft and blue chip prospects that were themselves high 1st rd picks. Dumba is no longer a prospect. He is a young defender that is contributing in a very crowded and competitive blue line on the Wild. That makes him incredibly valuable.
        The Klein/Tatar trade just has me scratching my head.
        May 30, 2016 at 12:23 a.m.
        #5
        LafreneiretoKravtsov
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        I would love to see this happen.
        May 30, 2016 at 12:42 p.m.
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        Klein alone wont get you anywhere near Tatar, you got a better chance trading him to Edmonton for yakupov.
         
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