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Getting to the floor

Created by: Ottawasean
Team: 2019-20 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 1, 2019
Published: Mar. 1, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Strategy is to take on a few picks while taking salaries that bring them up to the floor.

Take on salaries like Lucic and Darling, unloading smaller less desirable contracts the other way (Condon, Smith). Sign potential depth, character, leadership players like Hainsey. Sign potential deadline trade chips in Filppula, Ceci, Nilsson.

Finally - send Anderson home (family is in Florida) for younger, cheaper Reimer (I didn’t say better).

What would you do differently in a tank - I mean rebuilding - year?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$5,500,000
1$950,000
3$4,500,000
3$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
2$925,000
1$2,000,000
1$3,300,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Harley, Thomas
3$825,000
Zaytsev, Oleg
3$775,000
Lacombe, Jackson
3$750,000
Trades
1.
2.
OTT
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
3.
OTT
  1. Darling, Scott
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (BUF)
  3. 2019 6th round pick (CGY)
  4. 2020 6th round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
Condition on second - lower of the 2 owned.
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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Logo of the CGY
2020
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Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the DAL
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the OTT
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Logo of the SJS
Logo of the STL
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the OTT
2021
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
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Logo of the OTT
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,000,000$60,778,332$0$4,172,500$22,221,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$759,167$759,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$736,666$736,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$3,300,000$3,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$710,000$710K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,937,500$2,937,500
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$900,000$900,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$755,000$755,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,875,000$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,650,000$4,650,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Mar. 1, 2019 at 4:49 p.m.
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What in tarnation
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The idea is basically pretty good in this, but there's one issue - OTT never acquires free agents.

Name one UFA that signed at least $1M contract with OTT from last 10 years. I can't think of a single player.
Mar. 1, 2019 at 4:57 p.m.
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I like the idea, and the fact that you don't have everyone giving you 1st round picks.

Hard to know if Lucic would ever consider waiving his NMC to go to Ottawa though. Sure, Edmonton is a barren $hithole of an organization, but Ottawa is a straight up dumpster fire.
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Mar. 1, 2019 at 5:05 p.m.
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In Pridham we trust
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IMO Sens have to commit to Ceci or trade him, don't really see why he'd sign another 1 yr deal.
Mar. 1, 2019 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
The idea is basically pretty good in this, but there's one issue - OTT never acquires free agents.

Name one UFA that signed at least $1M contract with OTT from last 10 years. I can't think of a single player.


Nate Thompson Baby
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Mar. 1, 2019 at 7:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Nate Thompson Baby


Solid. There's one. Played for major 43 games in the team before he was traded lol.
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Mar. 1, 2019 at 8:34 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Solid. There's one. Played for major 43 games in the team before he was traded lol.


Johnny Oduya, Baby
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Mar. 1, 2019 at 11:44 p.m.
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If I was going to trade out cap space for a 2nd rounder I wouldn't be looking to take on Lucic. That's a 6 mil cap hit. I'd rather have multiple contracts with lower cap numbers so I could collect more picks. You can probably get 2-3 guys with smaller cap hits or shorter term. That way you can collect more picks.
Most of those big salary guys, Lucic, Backes all have NTC anyway. The smaller guys don't.
Mar. 2, 2019 at 7:55 a.m.
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OTTAWA Sean
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Quoting: Barilko14
IMO Sens have to commit to Ceci or trade him, don't really see why he'd sign another 1 yr deal.


Yah - I tried to look for players who would otherwise be PTO contract types. Filpula might be a stretch but thats why I gave him $3.3M - overpay for a 15-20 goal, 40-50 pt guy on the decline.
Mar. 2, 2019 at 7:57 a.m.
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OTTAWA Sean
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If I was going to trade out cap space for a 2nd rounder I wouldn't be looking to take on Lucic. That's a 6 mil cap hit. I'd rather have multiple contracts with lower cap numbers so I could collect more picks. You can probably get 2-3 guys with smaller cap hits or shorter term.

That way you can collect more picks.

Great point - but I was looking for a higher value pick. I don’t think you’ll het a second unless you’re taking a big, bad contract (example Phanuef) or sending equally bad contracts the other way.
Most of those big salary guys, Lucic, Backes all have NTC anyway. The smaller guys don't.
Mar. 2, 2019 at 9:03 a.m.
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it really depends on how large of a difference you get between picks on the 2nd and the other returns. If you are talking top 10 picks of the second round aka 40th pick or so, ok maybe but what if you aren't. Especially for the length and amount of that contract.

https://www.broadstreethockey.com/2013/4/25/4262594/nhl-draft-pick-value-trading-up

here is a value chart of NHL picks. You start looking at pick 40 and down, and really there isn't much of a difference is there?
Which is why if you are looking at later round picks aka 2nd round down. I'd rather collect more picks than the so called higher round picks. As I think the value return for taking on such a huge contract really isn't there and you can take shorter contracts with less cap hit and end up with a better return. At least statically.
You can end up taking a smaller contract for only 2 years and end up with maybe a mid to late 3rd round pick. Which isn't that far off in value from say a late second.
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