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Anaheim Ducks signed Jakob Silfverberg (5 Years / $5,250,000 AAV)

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Mar 1 at 9:09
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Jakob Silfverberg has signed a new contract with the Anaheim Ducks.
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LENGTH: 5 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: Anaheim Ducks
VALUE: $26,250,000
C.H.% : 6.60
SIGNING DATE: March 1, 2019
SOURCE: @CapFriendly
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2019-20Modified NTC$5,250,000$5,250,000$0$0$5,250,000$5,250,000$5,250,000
2020-21Modified NTC$5,250,000$5,250,000$0$0$5,250,000$5,250,000$5,250,000
2021-22Modified NTC$5,250,000$5,250,000$0$0$5,250,000$5,250,000$5,250,000
2022-23Modified NTC$5,250,000$5,250,000$0$0$5,250,000$5,250,000$5,250,000
2023-24Modified NTC$5,250,000$5,250,000$0$0$5,250,000$5,250,000$5,250,000
TOTAL$26,250,000$26,250,000$0$0$26,250,000$26,250,000$26,250,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 12 team no trade list.
CLAUSE SOURCE: @icemancometh
Mar 1 at 11:08
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Love his two-way game, but Anaheim really doesn't need his cap hit right now with the direction they're going.
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Mar 2 at 2:43
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Should have been dealt at the TDL....
Mar 2 at 6:29
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Should have been dealt at the TDL....


more value in him with term no?
12 team No Trade. That's not too bad, very movable if they need to later.
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Mar 2 at 6:54
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Mar 2 at 11:55
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Tbay, with their 6 contracts of middle 6 forwards all getting 5ish million has set the new standard.
Mar 2 at 12:28
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He's probably ANA's most cost effective Forward at this point, especially if you don't count Kase (IR SINCE Dec.). They'll recover next season. They have one of the top Goalies and some pretty solid young talent.
Mar 2 at 2:31
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Quoting: Brian2016
He's probably ANA's most cost effective Forward at this point, especially if you don't count Kase (IR SINCE Dec.). They'll recover next season. They have one of the top Goalies and some pretty solid young talent.


Rakell?
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Mar 2 at 3:10
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Good for them that they signed him, but that's a lot for Silfverberg. He's a good player, but 5.25X5 is a lot.
Mar 2 at 3:28
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Tbay, with their 6 contracts of middle 6 forwards all getting 5ish million has set the new standard.


5*
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Mar 2 at 5:46
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Quoting: pharrow
more value in him with term no?
12 team No Trade. That's not too bad, very movable if they need to later.


I mean a 12-team no trade list isn't great either. That many teams isn't usually given to a player of his caliber. If they did want to trade him later down the road 40% of the teams are off limits right of the bat before taking into consideration rivalry teams/division teams that the ducks probably wouldn't want to trade him to.
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Mar 2 at 6:12
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With this contract go all my hopes of the Caps getting Jakub Vrana signed for a number that starts with a 4
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Mar 2 at 6:15
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Quoting: krakowitz
Rakell?


Rakell has had an abysmal season w/ 9G in 52 games and minus -22 rating. Silfverberg has 16G. If he was anywhere near last season's numbers ANA would be a playoff team. But you're still probably right: Rakell is the better value, even at this season's cap hits.
Mar 2 at 7:33
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
5*


Killhorn, the 6th guy mentioned, is @ 4.5 million, close enough for the 5ish million quote.
Mar 2 at 8:13
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Edited Mar 2 at 8:30
Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Tbay, with their 6 contracts of middle 6 forwards all getting 5ish million has set the new standard.


Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
5*

Tampa's middle six averages $5,150,000.

$5,800,000 = Callahan
$5,300,000 = Palat
$5,250,000 = Miller
$5,150,000 = Gourde
$5,000,000 = Johnson
$4,450,000 = Killorn

And their top three will average around $9,500,000.

$10,500,000 = Point (on pace for 105 points / 47 goals)
$ 8,500,000 = Stamkos
$ 9,500,000 = Kucherov

You could argue that Callahan isn't in their middle six ... but that's a negative ... not a positive.
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Mar 2 at 8:17
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Killhorn, the 6th guy mentioned, is @ 4.5 million, close enough for the 5ish million quote.


Killorn is part of the 5
Mar 2 at 8:17
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Quoting: drewjenks
Callahan
Palat
Miller
Johnson
Killorn
Gourde

With their legit top 3 forwards being

Kucherov
Stamkos
Point


Callahan isnt a middle 6 forward though
Mar 2 at 8:38
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Callahan isnt a middle 6 forward though

True.

I updated my post right before reading this.

Callahan being a 4th line forward is a further negative for Tampa ... not a positive.

The OP seemed to be criticizing Tampa ... but I can't tell if you're supporting a specific side of this argument.
Mar 2 at 8:45
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Quoting: drewjenks
True.

I updated my post right before reading this.

Callahan being a 4th line forward is a further negative for Tampa ... not a positive.

The OP seemed to be criticizing Tampa ... but I can't tell if you're supporting a specific side of this argument.


My arguement is that its 5, not 6
Mar 2 at 11:49
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
My arguement is that its 5, not 6


My argument is that they are paying 6 non top-line forwards around 5 million each.

Which I believe is what the OP was criticizing - even though he used the word middle-six.
Mar 3 at 2:01
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Quoting: theBeer_Leaguer
I mean a 12-team no trade list isn't great either. That many teams isn't usually given to a player of his caliber. If they did want to trade him later down the road 40% of the teams are off limits right of the bat before taking into consideration rivalry teams/division teams that the ducks probably wouldn't want to trade him to.


yeah but that's a bad way to look at it. I mean you are already looking at probably 4-5 teams being off the table due to their current situation. Like it will be Ottawa, the rangers etc. So then you are looking at 16 playoff teams, you got maybe 2-3 in division, So you got 13 teams and lets say maybe 6 of them he is no trade to.

It's definitely possible to trade out of that at deadline. You would also be trading with term now, so you get a larger return than just a rental.

I don't really see this as a problem either way. You get at least 1/2 the TDL teams to make a move with.
Mar 3 at 11:46
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Quoting: drewjenks
Tampa's middle six averages $5,150,000.

$5,800,000 = Callahan
$5,300,000 = Palat
$5,250,000 = Miller
$5,150,000 = Gourde
$5,000,000 = Johnson
$4,450,000 = Killorn

And their top three will average around $9,500,000.

$10,500,000 = Point (on pace for 105 points / 47 goals)
$ 8,500,000 = Stamkos
$ 9,500,000 = Kucherov

You could argue that Callahan isn't in their middle six ... but that's a negative ... not a positive.


I think Point will resign for Kucherov money. Tampa won't give him more
Mar 3 at 4:54
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Mar 3 at 10:50
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Silvferberg is fine but he's a 40 point guy now making over 5m. seems to be too much. what team would have offered more?
tampa has a good team but some of those middle forward contracts are going to cost them a good player. but it's not really a big problem as it happens to most teams.
 
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