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Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 22, 2019
Published: Mar. 22, 2019
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Mar. 22, 2019 at 10:21 a.m.
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Mar. 22, 2019 at 11:04 a.m.
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Ruhwedel is gone next season most likely. And he deserves to go. There is no room for him and he can be a 6-7th dman somewhere instead of an 8th guy in pittsburgh.

Also there will be youth brought in somewhere next year. They have some young players with enough talent to break into the starting line up. They have to trust them and let them lower their cap hit number.
Mar. 22, 2019 at 11:47 a.m.
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Absolutely no to the trade. The pens can get at least a 2nd for Maatta. Just cause he is a pens fans whipping boy doesn’t mean he lost his value. He is still a solid top 4 dman
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Mar. 22, 2019 at 2:14 p.m.
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minimum to get Maatta is a second if its just draft picks.
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Mar. 22, 2019 at 3:44 p.m.
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Absolutely no to the trade. The pens can get at least a 2nd for Maatta. Just cause he is a pens fans whipping boy doesn’t mean he lost his value. He is still a solid top 4 dman


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minimum to get Maatta is a second if its just draft picks.


Let's not be Yinzer's for a few moments and actually be smart about a Penguins thread.

Is a 4th round pick for Maatta a good return? NO. Would he fetch a 2nd or better? NO.

What GM in their right mind would give up a 2nd round pick for a 24 year old player who has had multiple shoulder injuries and illnesses and is slower than a sloth? Were you two not around this past draft deadline? Way better players were traded for less. Regardless of contract status, it's a fact.
Regardless of the positioning order of where that pick (high or low) is in the draft could make a difference however but the assumption he will undoubtedly command such has no factual basis. Unfortunately, he appears to have lost his spot when he returns from injury. We all know Johnson won't be sat or moved. Pettersson is playing too well and Johnson will not be moved to the right side in place of Gudbranson as he is also playing well. Where does that leave Maatta? It leaves him being scratched waiting for a spot to open.

Come playoff time, it provides the Penguins with the defensive depth needed for a possible long run but longterm, someone will be moved in the offseason. If some of us on here can recognize the players strengths and weaknesses, who has moved down the depth chart, become unfavorable or just aren't working out with the team, don't you think REAL NHL GMs are aware of it as well and know way more about these players than any of us? They are the ones getting paid to do this while we sit here and bicker back n forth in our free time.

Maybe Rutherford has something planned under his sleeve. Maybe that's why he saved that draft pick. Could he be planning on a big splash on draft day? Who knows? Nobody has a crystal ball. In my opinion, which is all that it is, an opinion, if Maatta is packaged with another player, prospect or pick, the return would be greater.
Mar. 22, 2019 at 10:51 p.m.
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Let's not be Yinzer's for a few moments and actually be smart about a Penguins thread.

Is a 4th round pick for Maatta a good return? NO. Would he fetch a 2nd or better? NO.

What GM in their right mind would give up a 2nd round pick for a 24 year old player who has had multiple shoulder injuries and illnesses and is slower than a sloth? Were you two not around this past draft deadline? Way better players were traded for less. Regardless of contract status, it's a fact.
Regardless of the positioning order of where that pick (high or low) is in the draft could make a difference however but the assumption he will undoubtedly command such has no factual basis. Unfortunately, he appears to have lost his spot when he returns from injury. We all know Johnson won't be sat or moved. Pettersson is playing too well and Johnson will not be moved to the right side in place of Gudbranson as he is also playing well. Where does that leave Maatta? It leaves him being scratched waiting for a spot to open.

Come playoff time, it provides the Penguins with the defensive depth needed for a possible long run but longterm, someone will be moved in the offseason. If some of us on here can recognize the players strengths and weaknesses, who has moved down the depth chart, become unfavorable or just aren't working out with the team, don't you think REAL NHL GMs are aware of it as well and know way more about these players than any of us? They are the ones getting paid to do this while we sit here and bicker back n forth in our free time.

Maybe Rutherford has something planned under his sleeve. Maybe that's why he saved that draft pick. Could he be planning on a big splash on draft day? Who knows? Nobody has a crystal ball. In my opinion, which is all that it is, an opinion, if Maatta is packaged with another player, prospect or pick, the return would be greater.


because of this most recent injury I should have added caveat. If he proves he is healthy and his shoulder isn't mush. If that most recent injury just never happened his value would be moderately higher than it is now, he is a solid second pairing defenseman. A young solid second pairing defenseman should easily be able to net a second.

We never know with Sullivan, but Maatta is a better defenseman than Pettersson and should be in there IF he is healthy.

Of course that is a huge IF, but it still has to be considered.
Mar. 23, 2019 at 12:09 a.m.
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Edited Mar. 23, 2019 at 12:15 a.m. by Jarvis
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because of this most recent injury I should have added caveat. If he proves he is healthy and his shoulder isn't mush. If that most recent injury just never happened his value would be moderately higher than it is now, he is a solid second pairing defenseman. A young solid second pairing defenseman should easily be able to net a second.

We never know with Sullivan, but Maatta is a better defenseman than Pettersson and should be in there IF he is healthy.

Of course that is a huge IF, but it still has to be considered.


The only reason that could be argued is by how the most recent trade deadline went. Players of way better caliber went for significantly less. Regardless of their contract status, the deals were a clear indicator of what teams are willing to pay. I liked Maatta when he first came into the league but after the injuries and illnesses, he seemed to never recover and his development halted. Maybe he hit his ceiling early and leveled out but his offensive production dropped and he is like Mr. Glass but the actual Mr. Glass is faster than Maatta. His lack of speed leads to critical decisions poorly executed and he shies from contact. Hopefully some foolish GM overvalues him and considers his age and championship rings some sort of attractant.

Yeah, Sullivan is turning into Bylsma 2.0 with the constant line combination changes and his admiration for scrubs like Garret Wilson. If any Pens fan thinks G.Wilson is a good player and belongs in the NHL, they should switch to watching pro billiards. G.Wilson has 1 goal and 5 assists in 75 career NHL games.
Mar. 23, 2019 at 1:00 p.m.
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The only reason that could be argued is by how the most recent trade deadline went. Players of way better caliber went for significantly less. Regardless of their contract status, the deals were a clear indicator of what teams are willing to pay. I liked Maatta when he first came into the league but after the injuries and illnesses, he seemed to never recover and his development halted. Maybe he hit his ceiling early and leveled out but his offensive production dropped and he is like Mr. Glass but the actual Mr. Glass is faster than Maatta. His lack of speed leads to critical decisions poorly executed and he shies from contact. Hopefully some foolish GM overvalues him and considers his age and championship rings some sort of attractant.

Yeah, Sullivan is turning into Bylsma 2.0 with the constant line combination changes and his admiration for scrubs like Garret Wilson. If any Pens fan thinks G.Wilson is a good player and belongs in the NHL, they should switch to watching pro billiards. G.Wilson has 1 goal and 5 assists in 75 career NHL games.


What players went for significantly less than their value? A horrendous Gudbranson netted a 3rd liner on a cheaper contract. Granted Gudbranson has been solid being on a decent team, but still. Adam McQuaid netted a prospect, 4th, and 7th round pick. Maatta is significantly better than that. Marcus Johansen netted a 2nd and 4th and has been made of glass the past couple years. So it’s not like is horrendous to think Maatta who is still a solid top 4 young Dman couldn’t net a 2nd. The only ones that didn’t get good return was Stone (who everyone knew wasn’t re-signing in Ottawa). And Nyquist who Detroit is in extreme cap hell so they need to just get quantity of draft picks to trade their high salaries. Most teams were hesitant to trade their firsts cause of how solid the draft is supposed to be and how many bubble teams there are.
Mar. 23, 2019 at 1:57 p.m.
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The only reason that could be argued is by how the most recent trade deadline went. Players of way better caliber went for significantly less. Regardless of their contract status, the deals were a clear indicator of what teams are willing to pay. I liked Maatta when he first came into the league but after the injuries and illnesses, he seemed to never recover and his development halted. Maybe he hit his ceiling early and leveled out but his offensive production dropped and he is like Mr. Glass but the actual Mr. Glass is faster than Maatta. His lack of speed leads to critical decisions poorly executed and he shies from contact. Hopefully some foolish GM overvalues him and considers his age and championship rings some sort of attractant.

Yeah, Sullivan is turning into Bylsma 2.0 with the constant line combination changes and his admiration for scrubs like Garret Wilson. If any Pens fan thinks G.Wilson is a good player and belongs in the NHL, they should switch to watching pro billiards. G.Wilson has 1 goal and 5 assists in 75 career NHL games.


Jensen netted a second plus bowey. McQuaid netted a fourth and a seventh(and McQuaid isn't a good defenseman he even got scratched a couple games after the jackets traded for him, Maatta is lightyears better than he is. only thing McQuaid can do better is fight). That would make it very realistic to be a second for Maatta(IF he is healthy)
Mar. 23, 2019 at 3:05 p.m.
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Jensen netted a second plus bowey. McQuaid netted a fourth and a seventh(and McQuaid isn't a good defenseman he even got scratched a couple games after the jackets traded for him, Maatta is lightyears better than he is. only thing McQuaid can do better is fight). That would make it very realistic to be a second for Maatta(IF he is healthy)


I've never seen Maatta fight ever.
Mar. 23, 2019 at 7:40 p.m.
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I've never seen Maatta fight ever.


exactly, that is not a part of his game. McQuaid it is the only real part of his game.
Mar. 25, 2019 at 4:09 p.m.
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What players went for significantly less than their value? A horrendous Gudbranson netted a 3rd liner on a cheaper contract. Granted Gudbranson has been solid being on a decent team, but still. Adam McQuaid netted a prospect, 4th, and 7th round pick. Maatta is significantly better than that. Marcus Johansen netted a 2nd and 4th and has been made of glass the past couple years. So it’s not like is horrendous to think Maatta who is still a solid top 4 young Dman couldn’t net a 2nd. The only ones that didn’t get good return was Stone (who everyone knew wasn’t re-signing in Ottawa). And Nyquist who Detroit is in extreme cap hell so they need to just get quantity of draft picks to trade their high salaries. Most teams were hesitant to trade their firsts cause of how solid the draft is supposed to be and how many bubble teams there are.


Maybe instead of me saying way better players, I should have said something more along the lines of the more touted, highly regarded available players at the deadline.
Nyquist, Zuccarello, Granlund, Simmonds were all projected to net a more lucrative return. I think the only players who got a 1st in return were Duchesne and Hayes on deadline day and Montour the day prior.

It's just funny how before deadline day, a lot of people were coming up with all these trade scenarios involving all the most talked about available players and more often than not, all the Negative Nancys were quick to criticize about how that's not enough value or said player is worth so much more and so on and so on. Then reality strikes and these players get traded for much less value than what most of us originally thought. It just annoys me how people on here are so quick to jump down everyone's throat and attack each other, especially when they start using blind facts and ignore scientifically backed information. IMO, the best way to create these AGMs is if you are creating your favorite team, before completing the trade, pretend to be the GM of the other team and see where the value is.

Perception is relative for each GM. The Penguins will most likely be in the same cap hell as you mentioned Detroit is in thus resulting in teams low balling because the Penguins will be forced to make a move. I'm going to make an AGM about next season struggles if you wanna check it out and join in on the discussion. Should be interesting.
 
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