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If we wanted McDavid

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Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 24, 2019
Published: Mar. 24, 2019
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Mar. 24, 2019 at 12:48 p.m.
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Even if you wanted him you’d never get him.
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Mar. 24, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.
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Add, add, add
Mar. 24, 2019 at 12:54 p.m.
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Add, add, add


You must be undervaluing Couts.
Mar. 24, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.
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You must be undervaluing Couts.


Or you might be undervaluing McDavid
Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:06 p.m.
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Or you might be undervaluing McDavid


Couts is a top 10 center in the league and has a fantastic contract (you know that matters), Ghost is the perfect PP QB for them and again has a nice cheap contract. Garage is a top prospect and they get another lottery chance. That seems perfectly fair.
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Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:07 p.m.
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Swap Farabee with Frost and this goes through.
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Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:08 p.m.
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Swap Farabee with Frost and this goes through.


Sure, either one works.
Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:19 p.m.
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Hart, Lindblom, Frost and Ghost
Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Couts is a top 10 center in the league and has a fantastic contract (you know that matters), Ghost is the perfect PP QB for them and again has a nice cheap contract. Garage is a top prospect and they get another lottery chance. That seems perfectly fair.


Couturier is great but he is not top 10 center in the league, not even close.
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Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:28 p.m.
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Couturier is great but he is not top 10 center in the league, not even close.


Over the past 2 seasons he is 12th in points among centres. He vaults into the top 10 based on his extremely good defensive abilities and fantastic contract. So ya, he is top 10.
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Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:29 p.m.
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Hart, Lindblom, Frost and Ghost


Nope. Goaltending is the most important position and Hart has the ability to be the best in the league.
Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:31 p.m.
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maybe its a enough but if you auctioned off McDavid you could do better
Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:31 p.m.
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Nope. Goaltending is the most important position and Hart has the ability to be the best in the league.


Doesn’t matter it’s McDavid. You’re not gonna convince the Oilers to move him unless you over pay for him.
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Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:35 p.m.
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maybe its a enough but if you auctioned off McDavid you could do better


Who else is going to give up a top 10 C on a ridiculous contract?
Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:40 p.m.
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Who else is going to give up a top 10 C on a ridiculous contract?


im not saying every offer would be equal to yours. Edmonton could play leon and rnh at center an trade McDavid for a stud winger and some d. leon is a #1 center easy.
Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.
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im not saying every offer would be equal to yours. Edmonton could play leon and rnh at center an trade McDavid for a stud winger and some d. leon is a #1 center easy.


I won’t argue that but I think you take the top 10 C over a top 10 winger all day. Wingers are much easier to find.
Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:55 p.m.
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Over the past 2 seasons he is 12th in points among centres. He vaults into the top 10 based on his extremely good defensive abilities and fantastic contract. So ya, he is top 10.


Top 10 C in the league:
McDavid
Crosby
MacKinnon
Malkin
Barkov
Bergeron
Matthews
Stamkos
Tavares
Scheifele
and then..
Point
Backstrom
Draisaitl
Kuznetsov
Eichel
Pettersson
Kopitar
ROR
Couturier
Monahan

And Im not counting Aho and Giroux who are mostly wingers. Maybe he is close to top 15 but top 10 not even close
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Mar. 24, 2019 at 1:58 p.m.
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Top 10 C in the league:
McDavid
Crosby
MacKinnon
Malkin
Barkov
Bergeron
Matthews
Stamkos
Tavares
Scheifele
and then..
Point
Backstrom
Draisaitl
Kuznetsov
Eichel
Pettersson
Kopitar
ROR
Couturier
Monahan

And Im not counting Aho and Giroux who are mostly wingers. Maybe he is close to top 15 but top 10 not even close


What’s your list based off of? I gave you a stat and then justified why he gets a bump. Defence is a big part of the game. Couts does it at both ends of the ice. Not many others do. The fact that you have Tavares, Stamkos, Peterson, Eichel, Kuznetsov and more ahead of Couts is fking laughable!
Mar. 24, 2019 at 2:03 p.m.
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What’s your list based off of? I gave you a stat and then justified why he gets a bump. Defence is a big part of the game. Couts does it at both ends of the ice. Not many others do.


Based off my opinion, just like your opinion is based on your opinion.. Stats with Giroux who elevated his game so he has double the points than off Giroux? I like Couturier and I think he is very underrated, one of the most underrated guys in the conference but he is not top 10 C in the league. He is not a driving force on his line. What are his stats off Giroux? I would like to know that. All other guys I mentioned in top 10 scored with many different teammates higher or lower in quality.
Mar. 24, 2019 at 2:22 p.m.
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Bait.

Why do we care what McDavid is worth is trade. He's untradeable. He's worth more than what any sane GM should offer or accept. So who cares?
Mar. 24, 2019 at 3:06 p.m.
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Based off my opinion, just like your opinion is based on your opinion.. Stats with Giroux who elevated his game so he has double the points than off Giroux? I like Couturier and I think he is very underrated, one of the most underrated guys in the conference but he is not top 10 C in the league. He is not a driving force on his line. What are his stats off Giroux? I would like to know that. All other guys I mentioned in top 10 scored with many different teammates higher or lower in quality.


Well that isn’t based in reality at all with a couple exceptions.

McDavid plays with Draisaitl
MacKinnon with Rantanen
Bergeron with Marchand
Tavares with Marner
Scheifele with Wheeler and Connor or Laine
Point with Kucherov
Backstrom with Ovechkin
Barkov with Huberdeau
Malkin with Kessel
Crosby with Guentzel (Crosby makes anyone good)
Stamkos gets nearly half of his points on the PP where he plays with point and kucherov.
Matthews is another player like Crosby.

Shall I continue? Most top players play alongside another good player.
Mar. 24, 2019 at 3:14 p.m.
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Well that isn’t based in reality at all with a couple exceptions.

McDavid plays with Draisaitl
MacKinnon with Rantanen
Bergeron with Marchand
Tavares with Marner
Scheifelw with Wheeler and Connor or Laine
Point with Kucherov
Backstrom
Barkov with Huberdeau
Malkin with Kessel
Crosby with Guentzel (Crosby makes anyone good)
Stamkos gets nearly half of his points on the PP where he plays with point and kucherov.

Shall I continue? Most top players play alongside another good player.


You didnt get my point clearly. I mentioned multiple players as they have played with less good players and better players and they keep their good stats. Couturier without Giroux was 40pt guy, 2x that after moving to Giroux. McDavid started with Pouliot and Yakupov and was point per game player, MacKinnon played greatly without Rantanen too, not this great but better than Couts without Giroux. Bergeron was always 60-80pt guy and it didnt matter who he played with. Tavares was always around point per game or little lower with ****ty wingers, Stamkos was a beast even before Point and Kucherov emerged. As you said.. Crosby is making everybody good. Malkin scored on higher than point per game rate with Cooke on his LW. Barkov I agree. Scheifele I agree as well. Backstrom too ya know but all of those guys are better than Couturier and that is not taking anything away from Couturier as he is one of my favourites but he is not top-10 centerman
Mar. 24, 2019 at 3:26 p.m.
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You didnt get my point clearly. I mentioned multiple players as they have played with less good players and better players and they keep their good stats. Couturier without Giroux was 40pt guy, 2x that after moving to Giroux. McDavid started with Pouliot and Yakupov and was point per game player, MacKinnon played greatly without Rantanen too, not this great but better than Couts without Giroux. Bergeron was always 60-80pt guy and it didnt matter who he played with. Tavares was always around point per game or little lower with ****ty wingers, Stamkos was a beast even before Point and Kucherov emerged. As you said.. Crosby is making everybody good. Malkin scored on higher than point per game rate with Cooke on his LW. Barkov I agree. Scheifele I agree as well. Backstrom too ya know but all of those guys are better than Couturier and that is not taking anything away from Couturier as he is one of my favourites but he is not top-10 centerman


Couturier don’t play with Giroux , he play with Lindblom and voracek
Mar. 24, 2019 at 3:31 p.m.
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You didnt get my point clearly. I mentioned multiple players as they have played with less good players and better players and they keep their good stats. Couturier without Giroux was 40pt guy, 2x that after moving to Giroux. McDavid started with Pouliot and Yakupov and was point per game player, MacKinnon played greatly without Rantanen too, not this great but better than Couts without Giroux. Bergeron was always 60-80pt guy and it didnt matter who he played with. Tavares was always around point per game or little lower with ****ty wingers, Stamkos was a beast even before Point and Kucherov emerged. As you said.. Crosby is making everybody good. Malkin scored on higher than point per game rate with Cooke on his LW. Barkov I agree. Scheifele I agree as well. Backstrom too ya know but all of those guys are better than Couturier and that is not taking anything away from Couturier as he is one of my favourites but he is not top-10 centerman


I’m comparing players today, not what they have done historically. Couts wasn’t given a legit chance until last year and has run with it. It isn’t just Giroux. You clearly don’t watch Flyers games if you think he doesn’t create on his own.
Mar. 24, 2019 at 9:10 p.m.
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Add Frost and Myers and you may have a deal.
 
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