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Worst Defensive players this year

Created by: Philvr
Team: 2018-19 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 26, 2019
Published: Mar. 26, 2019
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this is solely based on EvolvingWilds EVD model
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$79,500,000$86,294,294$0$3,325,000-$6,794,294
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Rangers
$2,275,000$2,275,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$2,475,000$2M)
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$3,166,666$3,166,666
RD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Mar. 26, 2019 at 9:52 p.m.
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Show me some evidence that McDavid is bad defensively.
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Mar. 26, 2019 at 9:56 p.m.
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You're missing Ristolainen and Toews is a plus on a severely minus team...actually pretty good defensively considering he provides PK minutes.
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Mar. 26, 2019 at 10:18 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 26, 2019 at 10:31 p.m.
Quoting: Oilfan1717
Show me some evidence that McDavid is bad defensively.


https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20182019&thruseason=20182019&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&team=EDM&pos=S&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

McDavid is top 5 on the team in SCA/60, HDCA/60, SA/60 and the guys who beat him are guys Manning, Wideman, Petrovic, Gagner etc.

Never seen EvolvingWilds model, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at McDavid's numbers and figure out his style doesn't lend itself to a defensive game.
Mar. 26, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
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What the hell is this
Mar. 26, 2019 at 10:37 p.m.
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I would be interested in seeing the derivation for this. Ryan Johansen on a worst defensive list when he is the 1C for a very good defensive team seems pretty janky.
Mar. 26, 2019 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
You're missing Ristolainen and Toews is a plus on a severely minus team...actually pretty good defensively considering he provides PK minutes.


Risto -42 next closest Doughty -30
Mar. 27, 2019 at 3:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Oilfan1717
Show me some evidence that McDavid is bad defensively.


Vlasic, Dzingle & Toews should NOT be on a list that doesn't have Kessel at the top, bottom & a few times between!
Mar. 27, 2019 at 7:36 a.m.
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Edited Mar. 27, 2019 at 8:05 a.m.
Quoting: aedoran
Risto -42 next closest Doughty -30


I wouldn't go that far though. Doughty's just over extended. Near 27 min a game?! Paired with Forbort and Phaneuf for most the year AND he's on the top PK unit...while on the 2nd worst team in the league. I get that the post is this year and he's not having nearly his best year, but we should factor in those other things, no? To me, Dougthy shouldn't be here, sorry.
Mar. 27, 2019 at 12:54 p.m.
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I wouldn't go that far though. Doughty's just over extended. Near 27 min a game?! Paired with Forbort and Phaneuf for most the year AND he's on the top PK unit...while on the 2nd worst team in the league. I get that the post is this year and he's not having nearly his best year, but we should factor in those other things, no? To me, Dougthy shouldn't be here, sorry.


Wether or not you think Doughty belongs on the list or not he has the second worst +/- in the league right now.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20182019&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=plusMinus
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Mar. 27, 2019 at 3:03 p.m.
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I actually like a lot of EvolvingWilds stats. But a lot of the things he does seem inherently flawed. Like his age graphs. That use data from 2008 when hockey was a much different game than it is today.
But there is some stuff in it that I think is relevant like players peaking at roughly 24-25. And a drop off at roughly 33-34.
Although I think those numbers are more drastic today than they are looking at data from way back in 2008.

Either way stats don't always say the whole story, it's generally just an over view. Is McDavid one of the worst defenders. Maybe, but that doesn't mean he won't make you look silly on the ice.
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Mar. 28, 2019 at 7:50 a.m.
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Quoting: TheCelt
I would be interested in seeing the derivation for this. Ryan Johansen on a worst defensive list when he is the 1C for a very good defensive team seems pretty janky.


Doesn’t matter if he’s the 1C or the 4C he’s simply quite brutal defensively, this model also compares relative to teammates.
Mar. 28, 2019 at 7:51 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
Wether or not you think Doughty belongs on the list or not he has the second worst +/- in the league right now.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20182019&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=plusMinus


+\- doesn’t quantify what we are trying to figure out, and that is if a player is good defensively or not
Mar. 28, 2019 at 7:52 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
Risto -42 next closest Doughty -30


I really surprised me Towes was on this list I’ll have to look into him more and yes I agree Risto is quite brutal defensively
Mar. 28, 2019 at 7:53 a.m.
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Quoting: BootBoi
Vlasic, Dzingle & Toews should NOT be on a list that doesn't have Kessel at the top, bottom & a few times between!


Kessel yes that’s fair he doesn’t have much value in his game besides scoring. Towes I’ll have to look into more and Dzingel I’m positive is quite awful defensively
Mar. 28, 2019 at 8:00 a.m.
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Hagg is bad but Ghost is worse!
Mar. 29, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Hagg is bad but Ghost is worse!


Ghost isn’t very good but Hagg is terrible
 
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