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Draft day trades

Created by: Stan_Bowman
Initial Creation Date: Mar 28, 2019
Published: Mar 28, 2019 at 2:05 pm
Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Kubalik, Dominik2$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kämpf, David2$1,000,000
Trades
CHI
  1. Nylander, William
Additional Details:
Hawks need another star forward. We have much to many D man. I say we move Mitchell for forward help.
TOR
  1. Murphy, Connor
  2. Forsberg, Anton [RFA Rights]
  3. Mitchell, Ian [Reserve List]
CHI
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Anisimov, Artem
  2. Ejdsell, Victor [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
The later of the two picks
CHI
  1. 2019 7th round pick (NYR)
BOS
  1. Hayden, John
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
CHI
CHI
CAR
CHI
BOS
TBL
CHI
ANA
NYR
2020
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
2021
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,000,000$64,858,327$0$7,855,000$18,141,673
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CHI
Saad, Brandon
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
$778,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Strome, Dylan
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
CHI
Kurashev, Philipp
$842,500
C, LW
RFA - 3
CHI
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
CHI
Caggiula, Drake
$1,500,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Kämpf, David
$1,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
CHI
Highmore, Matthew
$775,833
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CHI
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
CHI
Crawford, Corey
$6,000,000
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Krys, Chad
$853,333
D
RFA - 3
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
CHI
Delia, Collin
$1,000,000
G
UFA - 3
CHI
Gustafsson, Erik
$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
CHI
Boqvist, Adam
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3

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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:06
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LOL - your answer from Dubas and the Leafs.
Mar 28, 2019 at 2:07
#2
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Quoting: jonesryan
LOL - your answer from Dubas and the Leafs.


Leafs fans are crazy. This is a great deal for both teams.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:09
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Leafs fans are crazy. This is a great deal for both teams.


I think they could get more, but that is more than fair as well.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:12
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
I think they could get more, but that is more than fair as well.


I also think that no team will want to do any favors for Toronto.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:17
#5
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Quoting: jonesryan
LOL - your answer from Dubas and the Leafs.


This post is funny. Big Willie holds out for 2 months. Dubas caves and gives him $7M A YEAR, but Big Willie's never been above 61 points AND 26 this year with only 6 goals in 49 games....all while being on 2nd best offense in the league... I can see he has talent when he plays, but at some point he needs to start earning that $7M contract. He hasn't even sniff'd justifying a $5M contract let alone $7M.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:18
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Leafs fans are crazy. This is a great deal for both teams.


Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
I think they could get more, but that is more than fair as well.


lol. An overrated 4-5 dman, a career AHL starter, and your #3 d prospect? That's an easy pass from Toronto. A serious offer would start with one of Jokiharju or Boqvist, a decent young roster player with middle 6 forward upside, and probably a 2nd that's a conditional 1st based on Nylander's performance/whether it's Jokiharju or Boqvist
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:19
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Quoting: exo2769
This post is funny. Big Willie holds out for 2 months. Dubas caves and gives him $7M A YEAR, but Big Willie's never been above 61 points AND 26 this year with only 6 goals in 49 games....all while being on 2nd best offense in the league... I can see the talent is there when he plays, but at some point he needs to start earning that $7M contract. He hasn't even come close yet.


I’m a firm believer that good players aren’t available when they are playing well, buying low is the best way.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:20
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Quoting: exo2769
This post is funny. Big Willie holds out for 2 months. Dubas caves and gives him $7M A YEAR, but Big Willie's never been above 61 points AND 26 this year with only 6 goals in 49 games....all while being on 2nd best offense in the league... I can see he has talent when he plays, but at some point he needs to start earning that $7M contract. He hasn't even sniff'd justifying a $5M contract let alone $7M.


Lol. What's even funnier is how you think a contract is only justifiable by playing 5 months of it and you only base that on points. Lol.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:20
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Quoting: jonesryan
lol. An overrated 4-5 dman, a career AHL starter, and your #3 d prospect? That's an easy pass from Toronto. A serious offer would start with one of Jokiharju or Boqvist, a decent young roster player with middle 6 forward upside, and probably a 2nd that's a conditional 1st based on Nylander's performance/whether it's Jokiharju or Boqvist


When your defense is exposed in the playoffs, and nylander disappears then come comment on this post about how you guys don’t need Murphy and how Nylnader is worth so much.
Mar 28, 2019 at 2:21
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Quoting: jonesryan
lol. An overrated 4-5 dman, a career AHL starter, and your #3 d prospect? That's an easy pass from Toronto. A serious offer would start with one of Jokiharju or Boqvist, a decent young roster player with middle 6 forward upside, and probably a 2nd that's a conditional 1st based on Nylander's performance/whether it's Jokiharju or Boqvist


I could say the same for a Forward who gets all of his points from his linemates without getting primary points. Why do you think Parayko+ doesn't happen for Nylander. Why do you think Blues won't accept Nylander+ for Parayko. Because Parayko is literally useless in most teams lines. (in your idea you think Toronto doesn't accept, it's actually quite the opposite. Nylander is very useless on team lines. Nylander would be super useless on the blues, on chicago probably not as bad, but nonetheless you overvalue the hell out of Nylander)
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:21
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Quoting: jonesryan
Lol. What's even funnier is how you think a contract is only justifiable by playing 5 months of it and you only base that on points. Lol.


Are you suggesting you are paying nylander for his locker room qualities? You are paying him for points man.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:21
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Quoting: jonesryan
Lol. What's even funnier is how you think a contract is only justifiable by playing 5 months of it and you only base that on points. Lol.


I base it on everything you see how many Goals he has? Should I just pull some of his advanced stats.
Mar 28, 2019 at 2:22
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
I’m a firm believer that good players aren’t available when they are playing well, buying low is the best way.


I do agree with you. AND again I do see his talent, but Dubas CAN'T be happy with him at all. It's injury to insult the way he's playing. I truly do believe that Dubas would be willing to trade him. They have too many cap issues to deal with and it would send a message to trade the hold out.
Mar 28, 2019 at 2:22
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Quoting: jonesryan
Lol. What's even funnier is how you think a contract is only justifiable by playing 5 months of it and you only base that on points. Lol.


Yup! When you a scorer that doesn't score it's like being a goalie that can't stop the puck from going in the net. KINDA A BIG DEAL!
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:23
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Quoting: jonesryan
lol. An overrated 4-5 dman, a career AHL starter, and your #3 d prospect? That's an easy pass from Toronto. A serious offer would start with one of Jokiharju or Boqvist, a decent young roster player with middle 6 forward upside, and probably a 2nd that's a conditional 1st based on Nylander's performance/whether it's Jokiharju or Boqvist


Murphy is an overrated 4 or 5 dman? LMAO Typical Leafs fan, can't come to grips with the reality like another 1st round exit this year or the statistical fact Nylander is playing like garbage....Saad is better this season then Nylander at $1M cheaper. Nylander doesn't warrant a A+ prospect like Boqvist let alone adding a conditional 1st plus a roster pick??? LMAO YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:23
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Murphy is an overrated 4 or 5 dman? LMAO Typical Leafs fan, can't come to grips with the reality like another 1st round exit this year or the statistical fact Nylander is playing like garbage....Saad is better this season then Nylander and that doesn't warrant a A+ prospect like Boqvist let alone adding a conditional 1st. OUT OF YOUR MIND


This is what you get when you try and be fair with a leafs fan.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:25
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
This is what you get when you try and be fair with a leafs fan.


Some of them are the worst homers on this website. If you gave them $10 and for $5 back they would say not fair, our $5 is worth $20.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:26
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Murphy is an overrated 4 or 5 dman? LMAO Typical Leafs fan, can't come to grips with the reality like another 1st round exit this year or the statistical fact Nylander is playing like garbage....Saad is better this season then Nylander and that doesn't warrant a A+ prospect like Boqvist let alone adding a conditional 1st plus a roster pick??? LMAO YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND


Quoting: Stan_Bowman
This is what you get when you try and be fair with a leafs fan.


All in all this is Typical overvaluing of the "God" Nylander.
Mar 28, 2019 at 2:26
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Some of them are the worst homers on this website. If you gave them $10 and for $5 back they would say not fair, our $5 is worth $20.


Even then they’ll act like they are doing you a favor.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:27
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Some of them are the worst homers on this website. If you gave them $10 and for $5 back they would say not fair, our $5 is worth $20.


It's like asking someone to break a 20 dollar bill and they give you a dollar bill back.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:28
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
It's like asking someone to break a 20 dollar bill and they give you a dollar bill back.


More like asking someone to break a 20, they rip it up in your face, and give you a dollar in nickels back.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:34
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
When your defense is exposed in the playoffs, and nylander disappears then come comment on this post about how you guys don’t need Murphy and how Nylnader is worth so much.


Lol. Nylander brings back a better d-man than Murphy. Guarantee that.

Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
I could say the same for a Forward who gets all of his points from his linemates without getting primary points. Why do you think Parayko+ doesn't happen for Nylander. Why do you think Blues won't accept Nylander+ for Parayko. Because Parayko is literally useless in most teams lines.


Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Are you suggesting you are paying nylander for his locker room qualities? You are paying him for points man.


Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
I base it on everything you see how many Goals he has? Should I just pull some of his advanced stats.


Try watching some games. Things aren't solely based on points/production. Yes Nylander tends to get lazy sometimes, a lot of players do. But the difference is that Nylander has the ability and frequently takes control of the game. There's been times where he's been the beat forward in the game, but some bad puck luck held him back from points. Matthews went through a time in his rookie year where he didn't score for 13 games. So by your logic, they shoulda traded him. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He's 5 months into his new contract. Chillnon the trade talk just cause he's having a down season in terms of statistics.. he's young. Guys mature and develop and maybe he grows out of the lazy times. But to suggest to give up that much skill for something that's not even close, is probably the worst trade suggestion possible. Did the Hall for Larsson trade not teach you anything? You don't trade top end talent for positional need. You trade it for its value. What you've suggested is no where near market value for Nylander.
Mar 28, 2019 at 2:36
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Quoting: jonesryan
Lol. Nylander brings back a better d-man than Murphy. Guarantee that.







Try watching some games. Things aren't solely based on points/production. Yes Nylander tends to get lazy sometimes, a lot of players do. But the difference is that Nylander has the ability and frequently takes control of the game. There's been times where he's been the beat forward in the game, but some bad puck luck held him back from points. Matthews went through a time in his rookie year where he didn't score for 13 games. So by your logic, they shoulda traded him. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He's 5 months into his new contract. Chillnon the trade talk just cause he's having a down season in terms of statistics.. he's young. Guys mature and develop and maybe he grows out of the lazy times. But to suggest to give up that much skill for something that's not even close, is probably the worst trade suggestion possible. Did the Hall for Larsson trade not teach you anything? You don't trade top end talent for positional need. You trade it for its value. What you've suggested is no where near market value for Nylander.


You are pretty insane imo.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:41
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
You are pretty insane imo.


When somebody says "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard" is when the conversation ends as you know you're dealing with a child.
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Mar 28, 2019 at 2:42
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Quoting: ChiHawk
When somebody says "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard" is when the conversation ends as you know you're dealing with a child.


Not to mention the bit about Matthews lol.
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