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Would we be better

Created by: Davo
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 6, 2019
Published: Apr. 6, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
EDM
  1. Johnsson, Andreas [RFA Rights]
  2. Matthews, Auston
  3. Rosén, Calle
  4. Zaitsev, Nikita
  5. 2019 2nd round pick (TOR)
  6. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
They want Zaitzev gone and we get D upgrade and are able to offload Lucic.
TOR
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. McDavid, Connor
Additional Details:
Lucic off books
Buyouts
Buried
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2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
17$8,300,000$65,105,999$0$500,000-$56,805,999
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$2,835,000$2,835,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$870,000$870,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Apr. 6, 2019 at 7:57 a.m.
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TiBo
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Interesting offer! We still don't know the ceiling on Matthews and Zaitsev isn't as bad as the media makes him out to be. That Lucic contract is gawd awful though...
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Apr. 6, 2019 at 8:36 a.m.
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Despite having McDavid, don't know how it makes the Leafs better. Lucic and McDavid in exchange for Matthews and Johnsson add 4 m in cap which the Leafs can't afford. (Leafs are already 6 or 7 m over cap) Sure Zaitsev and Rosen saves the Leafs 5.25m, but those two are projected to starting NHL Dman and how to do they get replaced ? As we have seen even a team with McDavid without good depth behind him isn't a good team.
Apr. 6, 2019 at 8:49 a.m.
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Quoting: TiBo23
Interesting offer! We still don't know the ceiling on Matthews and Zaitsev isn't as bad as the media makes him out to be. That Lucic contract is gawd awful though...


While Leafs fans often over value their players, I think this is generally right. I think the trade is probably on the high side of fair value for McD, I don’t think Leafs get any better and the Lucic contract is gawd awful.
Apr. 6, 2019 at 8:50 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Despite having McDavid, don't know how it makes the Leafs better. Lucic and McDavid in exchange for Matthews and Johnsson add 4 m in cap which the Leafs can't afford. (Leafs are already 6 or 7 m over cap) Sure Zaitsev and Rosen saves the Leafs 5.25m, but those two are projected to starting NHL Dman and how to do they get replaced ? As we have seen even a team with McDavid without good depth behind him isn't a good team.


I agree but why not look at the same as most do with Zaitzev. Bigger cap dump but I think a year less. Would take lots of tinkering but was looking at what it would take for oilers leaf trade to happen.
Apr. 6, 2019 at 8:51 a.m.
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Quoting: sedin33
While Leafs fans often over value their players, I think this is generally right. I think the trade is probably on the high side of fair value for McD, I don’t think Leafs get any better and the Lucic contract is gawd awful.


Agreed but would they be able to move that contract even if for very little
Apr. 6, 2019 at 8:59 a.m.
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Agreed but would they be able to move that contract even if for very little


Well Lucic has a NMC (assuming he waives for the trade). I believe he also has to be protected for the expansion draft.

Not sure if anyone would be interested. Leafs would have to pay someone to get rid of him or buy him out.
Apr. 6, 2019 at 9:04 a.m.
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I agree but why not look at the same as most do with Zaitzev. Bigger cap dump but I think a year less. Would take lots of tinkering but was looking at what it would take for oilers leaf trade to happen.


I understand that the Leaf need cap relief, I think it's about 6.5m over cap with their RFAs signed. But despite the rumours on CapFriendly Zaitsev isn't really a cap dump. He plays big minutes for the Leafs at 4.5m. Admitting he is a tough trade without taking similar money back. IMO even if were to happen, McDavid to the Leafs is a bad fit. Both teams need cap relief.. And don't believe the Oilers were ever trade McDavid to a Leafs as they the Leafs show up on Alberta TV at least twice a week.
Don't think McDavid would ever be traded....well at least for few years, but if he was, my opinion is the Flyers would be a good fit. They have cap so they don't have send 12.5m back in a trade, and they have prospects, and players on ELC which the Oilers would be find desirable. And McDavid would probably the Flyers into playoffs and maybe more.
Apr. 6, 2019 at 9:07 a.m.
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Well Lucic has a NMC (assuming he waives for the trade). I believe he also has to be protected for the expansion draft.

Not sure if anyone would be interested. Leafs would have to pay someone to get rid of him or buy him out.


Regarding NMC for the draft. Players have the option of waiving their NMCs. I gotta believe Lucic would waive his NMC as it would allow his team....the Oilers to be better by protecting another player. And what the chances of Seattle wasting a selection on a 6m cap hit?
Apr. 6, 2019 at 10:36 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Regarding NMC for the draft. Players have the option of waiving their NMCs. I gotta believe Lucic would waive his NMC as it would allow his team....the Oilers to be better by protecting another player. And what the chances of Seattle wasting a selection on a 6m cap hit?


Possible that he waives, but don’t think it’s likely. I don’t think players see it that way. I do agree that it’s unlikely that Seattle takes him, but that’s not the issue. If he takes a protected spot, it frees another player to be taken
Apr. 6, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.
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The short answer? No.
The long answer, also no
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