Pretty sure NYR is not willing to pay enough. The demand is going to be very high.

My guess is Zibanejad for the pick 1-on-1. He'd be great 2nd line C there.

expected a Zibanejad counter proposal but why would NYR trade their only established center?

might be a little low in value, but what about Howden, Pionk, 2019 2nd and a 2020 2nd for the #4?

i think that's less value then i proposed so sure, if NYR drafts a C at 4th then i'll gladly take your offer

Way low in value

ziba is an established player that put up 70+ points on one of the worst teams in the league. He is worth more than the 4th in this draft especially. Not to mention his contract is beyond team friendly.

alright, Howden, DeAngelo, and 1 of the firsts it is then

Don't know much about NYR talent, but the price will be a legit young top 6 forward, because that's what they're hoping for with the 4th pick

you have Johnson, Barrie, Makar and Timmins. why would you even want DeAngelo? and NYR are in no position to trade off him now that Pionk and Shattenkirk are questionable while Lundkvist and Keane have a long way to go



Well Buchnevich are a 23 year top 6 forward so there you go, while also getting a 23 year young goaltender (which Colorado also needs) who can be discussed he overachieved but he played Vezina caliber about half his starts this season. adding a 1st likely between 20-25 also

Barrie has 1 year left till UFA.. Colorado might lose hm to that or they could trade hime for assets before they do. If you want something good you've gotta give up something good. You've now seen the price, you're getting a top 4 pick which is extremely valuable

it's not about whatever giving up something good or not, it's where would you even slot him in your lineup?
Johnson
Barrie
Makar
that's your RHD for the 2019-2020 season

Johnson
Makar
Barrie/Timmins
that's your RHD for the 2020-2021 season

you would rather trade for somewhere you're weaker at, like RW and GK which is one reason for my OP

No?.. did you read my comment? Barrie is a free agent after the 2019/2020 season.. therefore a smart move is to trade him for assets, and DeAngelo could be his replacement. Colorado doesn't need a back up goalie. They have Pavel Francouz in the minors who's been very solid. Buchnevich is far too inconsistent but is a nice piece. But why would Colorado take 1 nice piece when they can easily get more? DeAngelo, Howden, and a 1st is much closer to fair value

did you read mine? the "Barrie/Timmins" part that means that if Barrie leaves then Timmins takes his spot? So you're either letting Timmins or DeAngelo be scratched, forced to play off position or buried in the miniors which none of them should be by the time Barrie's contract is over since everyone assumes every player will go to free agency when their contract is up after the Tavares incident so better get value for all pending UFA's like it's NHL 19 GM-mode!
And why is it a smart move to trade your best defenseman when you're trying to build a contender for the sole reason cause he's a pending UFA? if you know beforehand, like during the summer that he won't resign then sure. But much like Islanders (Tavares) and Columbus (Panarin, Bobrovsky) then Colorado won't trade their best player at said position while trying to go for the playoffs

Francouz turns 29 this year, not much to look forward to there long term, also he's UFA this summer unless he resign's

Buchnevich > DeAngelo both in needs and more proven so far, so i don't get your logic there, why not just target another asset, maybe one of NYR logjam of LHD prospect since Colorado have some spots open there

Kreider (top 6)
Namestnikov/Strome/Vesey (depth)
Georgiev (Young nhler)
Win 1st rd pick

4th overall
Small add (b prospect/3rd rd)
Optional cap dump
Conditional 2nd - only if Kreider re-signs

didn't wanna include Kreider cause giving up that #4 is too much risk for a pending UFA, a conditional 2nd don't make up for the difference between one year of Kreider and 3-6 years of Kreider

Would you trade Buchnevich, Georgiev, and a 1st for Bennett, Puljujarvi, or G.Reinhart?
Those are 3 of the last 7 4th overall selections.

IF you are trading a top 10 pick, you are trading it for additional prospects/picks or in a package for a more established player that is further along in their development.
#4 OA is not enough for Zibenejad.
If you are confident Buchnevich is a top 6 player and not a middle 6'er. That's about fair value. There's still a risk he's only a middle 6'er, but the pick has the risk of not even being an NHL'er. If you wait until a player establishes themselves as a top 6'er, the pick alone is no longer enough. Both teams have to be confident in what they are getting and assume a certain amount of risk, but the team giving up the established player is almost always assuming the larger risk.