You’re right, he’s making $11. Marner creates plays better than Matthews. Marner is the catalyst of the PP. Marner plays the PK. Marner is much more sound defensively. Marner IS the better player.

You’re right...for 7 years it might be 11 or even 12. 5 years 10 million is fair

He creates plays, yes. Not better than Matthews. Runs the powerplay, yes. I'll give it to Marner over Matthews. Plays the PK, yes. Babs prefers wings to kill over the centers which drives me up a wall. Defensively Marner and Matthews are even. Matthews has the higher ceiling, Marner plays to his linemates skill much like Nylander. Matthews carries his line for the most part. I love Marner, he's a top talent in the league, he's top 3 on the Leafs, Under JT and Matthews. If he makes 10 Mill then damn he deserves it but he knows if that's what he gets then goodbye to Naz, AJ and maybe Willy.

Does it really make difference what Matthews makes? Marner's leverage is an offer sheet from one of the 30 other teams. There are examples all across the NHL where the best player on a team doesn't make the most money. Somehow it always seems to an issue with the Leafs.

Marner plays the PK because he is better defensively than Matthews. Has nothing to do with being C or a W. How can you make the claim they are the same defensively? Matthews plays a more sheltered game as his 57% OZ starts would say. Also, Marner drives his line just as much as Matthews. Marner makes JT better not the other way around. Marner is not like Nylander, Marner is the Leafs best player.

How often do the 2 or 3 best players on a team sign a contract within a year of each other? Marner can easily use JT and Matthews as comparables.

I know Marner will use Mathews as a comparable....and for good reason, but really the comparables have to used for entire league. Have the new contracts of Aho, Raanaten and Kucherov have no meaning?

So he’ll take less than he should so they can keep Nylander? Would you take less money at your job to keep a coworker happy?

Not when Dubas has set the Toronto market. That is the only one that matters to the Marner camp. The Leafs are the richest team in the league.

Kane and toews? Would be the best example I could think of. 2 peers signing at the same time

IMO Marner shouldn’t have to compare outside Toronto? If your team is paying lesser/equivalent talent more than they’re offering you that’s an issue. Who care what other team are willing to do. Your gm just handed lesser players more money

You know there is salary cap regardless of the the 130m profit of MSLE last year. We'll see about Marner, but if the Leafs say no 11.7m what are Marner's options, unless he gets an offer sheet from another team. The Marner market in Toronto hasn't been set by Leafs yet...not until the contract is signed.

So let's imagine Marner demands 11.642m Matthews money and Leafs say no. What are Marner's options? Unless another NHL wants to pony up 11.642m, for Marner, Marner isn't getting that much, (if the Leafs say no) regardless of of Matttews/Marner internal Leaf comparisons. Leafs for some reason paid hometown premiums for Nylander and Matthews, it certainly doesn't mean it will or can continue forever.

False... Matthews has a very strong defensive game. He could easily kill penalties much like JT was at the beginning of the season.

As for marner driving his line... who’s season improved more from the previous... JT or Marner? Marner is a great player but it’s not like Hyman put up 40 goals this year....

Who do you think is Toronto's best player? In your opinion.

I'm not sure if this as an open question or posted specifically to the author if the AGM.. but I think its a good question.

so, not to jump outta turn, but I'd say its Andersen, followed by one of Mo or JT... In 2 or 3 years I think that's probably a different answer.

They don’t sign him... he sits out .... leafs struggle bc he’s their best player....they end up paying him by December

Nylander 101

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Believe what you want but if you watch the games it is easy to see that Marner is the best player on the ice and the stats bear that out.

Or maybe the Leafs learn from the the fiasco of signing Nylander.. So Marner doesn't sign with the Leafs and he loses 10m....yep that's showing the Leafs.

wont happen . he will get between 10,5 and 11,5 and he deserves it , there are teams who will offersheet this year , marner and point are 21 year old superstars they are worth 4 firsts if you sign them for seven years your getting the best 7 years of there careers locked in . there is no guess work , < FIRST ROUND PICKS > they are proven star players . there are 1 or 2 teams who are a star player away from being contenders and there are a lot of teams that have cap space galore . hawks 23 mil , mtl close to 30 mil , rangers , panthers , canucks , canes , yotes , sens ,clb , flyers etc all have the cap space to offersheet marner .

I'll disagree with your numbers. Most of those teams have of their own RFAs to sign so it's not like that have all that money available. And the teams that do have cap space...could very well lottery teams. As I have said before, it's possible that the Leafs don't match an offer sheet. They would have 10m to spend on other player(s) they have allotted for Marner, and also the four picks, which could well be lottery picks. If Marner deserve 11m as you suggest....what do Point, Ranatanen and Aho would put up similar, maybe better numbers that Marner?

No gm is going to allow a 21 year old superstar to sit out a season by trying to chisel down by .5 mil to 1.5 mil . marleau , zaitsev , connor brown etc etc will all be dumped before this happens . the problem for the leafs wont be resigning marner they will make that happen . there problem is that they will have allocated to much money at forward while ignoring there defence . losing gardiner and hainsey will hurt an already week defence . they will be forced to trade one of nylander , johanssen , kapanen for a top 2 or 3 dman

point might settle for less because florida has no state income tax like stamkos did . 9 mil in florida is like 13 mil in any canadian city . tampa is cap strapped too , point is as much an offersheet target as marner especially being a center . flyers have an offersheet history have cap space have alot of depth in prospects and are a young team overall . as witnessed by the hextall firing management is expected to be aggressive and proactive . They are a team that is a player away from contending , there other big problem was goaltending HART seems to have solved that < to early to be sure > when hart came in and gave them quality goaltending they went on a tear . i can see them making a play for marner or point