Probably fair value, but if I'm GM I'm not degrading my 1st rounder just to clear some cap. There are easier, less painful ways to clear $1.375M.

Youre missing on those 2 extra years at 6M per if you wanna think the numbers correctly .

Good because no team is going to take Lucic just to move up to 8th in the first round.

At first glance I thought it was bad because alzner can’t even play d on a team that desperately needs a lhd and lucic can atleast play.

Then I looked at the buyout... Edmonton saves 5m in cap next year 2m the year after and 5m per year in the rest of the contract compared to lucic on the roster. If I’m Edmonton I think that may be worth pulling the trigger on, if there’s someone they see value in later in the draft.

We drop Alzner on the way , Lucic can be useful as an enforcer on a team with so many little buggers like: Shaw , Domi , Deslauriers , Gallagher , Weise and Weber authority we could have the identity of tough to play against . Julien have coach him and he is changing to vegan i think so eventually he could be leaner maybe ..

Lots of young talent to protect with rookies coming in. I could see this as a decent move. When cap season ace is needed lucic could be bought out with less of a hit.

He has that pesky NMC and that is a big problem along with his slow feet. But hey I'm sure Julien could find some use for him even it's just parking his butt in front of the net on the PP. With that being said moving up 7 spots is just not even close to worth it.

i see the 4.6M as bury , when you look at 1.3 m difference for an enforcer with some hands skills is interesting . + advance in the draft isn't free that for sure !

1 extra year.

Perfect , i thought it was even more expensive !

You're right: Lucic is an actual player, Alzner is not. Lucic posted a 50% GF% last year without McDavid, the only Oilers regular forward to do so. So although he isn't scoring, he's doing very well defensively. And last I checked, games are won on goal differential, not on pure scoring alone. Is he worth $6M? Not even close.

Anyhow, even if Gretzky would go for it, I wouldn't. Best to ride out the bad contracts as much as possible, and if there is a need to clear $1.375M next year there are plenty of other ways to do it without trading a top-10 pick.

Cap hit is $6M x 4 vs $4.625 x 3. Savings are:

$1.375M
$1.375M
$1.375M
$6M

Plenty of ways to clear $1.375M without trading a top-10 pick. Besides, what does $1.375M buy you anyhow? A 4th liner? Yeah, lets trade a top-10 pick for that.

You have to understand that Lucic take also an expansion draft spot which is calculated in this trade . + the extra year bump the price , if you bury Alzner in Ahl the actual relief on sept 2. is a lot actually ... nice speaking with u .

maybe we can retain 1M from Alzner since your a tough negociator .

NMC doesn't travel with the player unless MTL signs an addendum allowing it.

Hmm, yeah, he could join Manning there - we could end up with quite the collection!

Correct but what makes you think Lucic agrees to waive his NMC in the first place without an agreement that it will be reinstated? He'd really have to want out of Edmonton because that NMC gives him all the power, without it he could be traded at will or buried in the minors.

I believe this to be the case. I understand his agent has made some inquiries around the league... MTL is very likely a spot he would waive for.

Manning for Weise if you also take one of Tatar , Shaw , Lekhonen , Armia , Byron for 2 second rounder !

But I still don't think he'd be willing to lose his NMC. There's a reason good GMs avoid those, gives the player all the power.

Haha, this just keeps getting better!

Sure, I agree in principle. But of all the players with NMC's that have been moved, I can't think of any whose clauses have survived the trade. Can you?

@Banks - I can't filter the trades by NMC or NTC. Is there a way to add this feature?

Would you trade 2 - second rounder against one of Shaw , Tatar ,Armia , Lekhonen ?

Hmm, I'd have to look at these guys in some depth, can't say right off.