ott edm and carolina all slam down the phone

Why would Carolina slam down the phone? Fox literally can tell them “I’m not coming here.” And they can lose Fox for 0.

Ottawa moves up an entire round and takes on a bad (not awful) contract in Smith to stay above the cap floor. Edmonton clearly needs to move on from JP, plus they'll get a top 4 dman at slightly less than $5M cap hit on a defensive desperate team. Adam Fox has stated he's not signing in Carolina and NYR are penciled in to get him already, this just speeds up the process and they get a solid top 9 guy in return.

So no, they wouldn't slam the phone down

People lack logic on here. Glad someone gets it

lol @ Karlsson taking less than 10...bravo Rags fan...bravo

Eh, 500k doesn't make a huge difference. Changed it to 5/$10M AAV. Doubt he gets a full 7 years though given his injury history

Canes trade is good, but the Edmonton trade is bad. Maybe you retain 50% and add a 2nd. I’m not sure they take it even then. If you can find a team with cap space needing an rhd I think you could get something for him at 75% cap.

Karlsson is one of my favorite players but he has looked brutal since coming back from yet another injury. Are you sure you want him for 5 years at 10 million?

Edmonton has a surplus of bottom pair RHD in Russell and Petrovic. This move would improve them greatly, plus JP's trade value is probably as low as it ever will be, but fair enough

I believe it's likely that teams will be granted an amnesty buyout at the 2020 Lockout negotiations. In that case, if he continues to go downhill, NYR could use it on him. Similar to what they did after signing Brad Richards to that giant contract in 2012

Shattenkirk never approves a deal too EMD

Smith has Limited NTC & doubtful OTT is on it.

Not enough dollars for Karlsson or Panarin.
Karlsson will get at least Doughty's AAV of 11 so say 7 @ 11million per.
Panarin will get 11 per at 7 from FLA , so NYR may have to outbid them (FLA has NO state tax & NY & NYC have state & local taxes) So say 5 or even 7 @ 12.375 per.

Fox might be had for NYR 2nd rd pick (from TB #58 if they get bounced by COLUMBUS, maybe they take a 3rd & Sean Day as a project) ) He'll sign his ELC with the NYR (or dare i say NYI)if they get his rights.

Why are you keeping Staal but getting rid of Shatty?

Easier contract to move

Exact dollar amounts and term is pretty much impossible to predict until it happens. I can see Shatty potentially rejecting, but not Smith. He would be a top 4 guy there.

ottawa needs to reach the cap floor and they move up in the draft
edmonton needs a defenseman and puljujarvi is pretty much worthless atm
carolina is about to lose fox for nothing and can get a top 9 forward instead. i would rather move strome over namestnikov in this case

Yeah I dunno man we dont need to move on lmao the guy is 20 imagine telling the leafs at the time to move on from johnsson now look at him lmao I'm not trading jp for a brutal shattenkirk lol I'll keep jp plus dont have the cap even with 25% retation

I like all the trades except for Pionk. He's not part of our future and I want to move him, but he's not worth a 2nd at this point. He was brutal in the 2nd half

He's an elite defenseman...they don't come cheap. Even if he plays in a city like NY you guys are still 1-2 years away from completing the rebuild. If you guys didn't land 2OA I would say 2-3 years away, but Kakko accelerates that for sure.

....you mean because one player is massively better than the other?

...which is why it’s an easier contract to move

well yeah, it's a lot easier to move Marner than Zeitsev too but that doesn't mean you should actively make your team worse

Shattenkirk is a very good player
Staal is a very bad player.
The difference in salary is less than the league minimum.
Staal will probably take a trade anywhere if it means playing vs. not or to be on a contender.

comparing Shattenkirk to Marner is stupid. He's very clearly a shell of his former self. No team would take on Staal in all likelihood.