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Helping Tampa while helping ourselves

Created by: DirtyDangles
Initial Creation Date: Apr 16, 2019
Published: Apr 16, 2019 at 12:37 pm
Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas3$800,000
Hartman, Ryan1$1,650,000
Konecny, Travis3$4,750,000
Provorov, Ivan8$6,750,000
Sanheim, Travis2$3,650,000
Laughton, Scott1$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Talbot, Cam1$2,250,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Callahan, Ryan
  2. Miller, J.T.
TBL
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Hägg, Robert
Buyouts
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Radko Gudas: $1,005,000 (30%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
PHI
PHI
PHI
NJD
PHI
PHI
PHI
ARI
PHI
MTL
2020
PHI
PHI
MIN
PHI
NSH
PHI
PHI
PHI
2021
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$79,781,388$0$2,995,000$3,218,612
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
PHI
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 5
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
TBL
Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 4
PHI
Frost, Morgan
$863,333
C
RFA - 3
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
PHI
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Konecny, Travis
$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
PHI
Raffl, Michael
$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
PHI
Laughton, Scott
$1,750,000
C
UFA - 2
PHI
Hartman, Ryan
$1,650,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Provorov, Ivan
$6,750,000
LD
UFA - 6
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 4
PHI
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 2
PHI
Sanheim, Travis
$3,650,000
RD
RFA - 2
PHI
Myers, Philippe
$678,889
RD
RFA - 1
PHI
Talbot, Cam
$2,250,000
G
UFA - 1
PHI
Morin, Samuel
$700,000
LD
RFA - 2
PHI
Gudas, Radko
$2,345,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PHI
MacDonald, Andrew
$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
TBL
Callahan, Ryan
$5,800,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
PHI
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$800,000
RW
RFA - 1

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Apr 16, 2019 at 12:53
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Why does it seem unlikely that Miller or Callahan would waive to play for AV?
Apr 16, 2019 at 12:59
#2
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Quoting: Dmh1055
Why does it seem unlikely that Miller or Callahan would waive to play for AV?


You know how modified NTCs and NMCs work right?
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:11
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
You know how modified NTCs and NMCs work right?


Yes. Callahan and Miller would both have to put the Flyers on their list of teams they would accept a trade to. Waiving is a much shorter term. Do you know how the dictionary works?
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:14
#4
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Quoting: Dmh1055
Yes. Callahan and Miller would both have to put the Flyers on their list of teams they would accept a trade to. Waiving is a much shorter term. Do you know how the dictionary works?


Callahan submits a 16 team trade list (half the NHL), MIller technically doesn't have a NTC until July 1st and after that he submits a whopping 8 teams he can't be traded to. Neither of us knows whether the FLyers would be on either list so take your crap elsewhere.
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:22
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LongtimeLeafsufferer
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A nice "christian" thought.....helping one another. But you are right, this type of trades works for both teams. And the Flyers have cap to take Callaghan. And even if they have to pay more for get Miller than a third rounder, getting a solid NHLer for four years seem like a fine idea.
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:25
#6
MK458
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Quoting: Dmh1055
Yes. Callahan and Miller would both have to put the Flyers on their list of teams they would accept a trade to. Waiving is a much shorter term. Do you know how the dictionary works?


Miller's NTC doesn't start until july 1st, and he only lists 8 teams he can't be traded to. And Callahan lists 16
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:28
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Callahan submits a 16 team trade list (half the NHL), MIller technically doesn't have a NTC until July 1st and after that he submits a whopping 8 teams he can't be traded to. Neither of us knows whether the FLyers would be on either list so take your crap elsewhere.


I asked a simple question of it seeming unlikely either would want to play for AV again.
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:30
#8
Shibbal18
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Millers ntc doesnt start till July 1. I think TB could get more for Miller alone and if push comes to shove, buyout Callahan
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:30
#9
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Quoting: mk458
Miller's NTC doesn't start until july 1st, and he only lists 8 teams he can't be traded to. And Callahan lists 16


It's not good for business to acquire a player who doesn't want to be here when he's likely literally days away from being able to put that team on the list of no trade teams. It did not work out well for Columbus when the Flyers traded Jeff Carter to them under a very similar circumstance.
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:32
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: Dmh1055
It's not good for business to acquire a player who doesn't want to be here when he's likely literally days away from being able to put that team on the list of no trade teams. It did not work out well for Columbus when the Flyers traded Jeff Carter to them under a very similar circumstance.


And Berglund in Buffalo
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:38
#11
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Quoting: Dmh1055
It's not good for business to acquire a player who doesn't want to be here when he's likely literally days away from being able to put that team on the list of no trade teams. It did not work out well for Columbus when the Flyers traded Jeff Carter to them under a very similar circumstance.


So what, then we flip him elsewhere and get better than a 3rd back. If the player doesn't have a NTC at the time of the trade, he has no say in the matter.
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:49
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
So what, then we flip him elsewhere and get better than a 3rd back. If the player doesn't have a NTC at the time of the trade, he has no say in the matter.


But if Callahan feels the same way they'll have to buy him out and then deal Miller while holding no leverage. They might end up with only swapping a 3rd for a 2nd but have dead cap space for 2 years from Callahan. Ouch. I wouldn't go looking for many former players wanting to play for AV again. And if Fletcher wants a former AV player he better find out that player's feelings toward the coach before making such a trade.
Apr 16, 2019 at 1:53
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Quoting: Dmh1055
But if Callahan feels the same way they'll have to buy him out and then deal Miller while holding no leverage. They might end up with only swapping a 3rd for a 2nd but have dead cap space for 2 years from Callahan. Ouch. I wouldn't go looking for many former players wanting to play for AV again. And if Fletcher wants a former AV player he better find out that player's feelings toward the coach before making such a trade.


Who cares what Callahan thinks, if we aren't on his no trade list then he can ride the pressbox for the year or retire, we don't have to buy him out.
Apr 16, 2019 at 2:16
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Who cares what Callahan thinks, if we aren't on his no trade list then he can ride the pressbox for the year or retire, we don't have to buy him out.


You have a good feel for the human element of the game.
Apr 16, 2019 at 2:19
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Quoting: Dmh1055
You have a good feel for the human element of the game.


The NHL is a business.
Apr 17, 2019 at 11:45
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Helping Tampa makes a lot of sense, but Miller is more of a winger than a center. Not exactly thrilled about taking back Callahan, but I guess it's not too bad considering only a third was moved for Miller. Where is Scott Laughton in all of this? Looks like he wasn't resigned, but he's definitely a better 4C option than Voroybev at this point.
Apr 17, 2019 at 11:47
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Quoting: Btosh
Helping Tampa makes a lot of sense, but Miller is more of a winger than a center. Not exactly thrilled about taking back Callahan, but I guess it's not too bad considering only a third was moved for Miller. Where is Scott Laughton in all of this? Looks like he wasn't resigned, but he's definitely a better 4C option than Voroybev at this point.


My bad on Laughton, I had him in the deal to a Tampa and reversed it but forgot to re-add him.
 
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