Why does it seem unlikely that Miller or Callahan would waive to play for AV?

You know how modified NTCs and NMCs work right?

Yes. Callahan and Miller would both have to put the Flyers on their list of teams they would accept a trade to. Waiving is a much shorter term. Do you know how the dictionary works?

Callahan submits a 16 team trade list (half the NHL), MIller technically doesn't have a NTC until July 1st and after that he submits a whopping 8 teams he can't be traded to. Neither of us knows whether the FLyers would be on either list so take your crap elsewhere.

A nice "christian" thought.....helping one another. But you are right, this type of trades works for both teams. And the Flyers have cap to take Callaghan. And even if they have to pay more for get Miller than a third rounder, getting a solid NHLer for four years seem like a fine idea.

Miller's NTC doesn't start until july 1st, and he only lists 8 teams he can't be traded to. And Callahan lists 16

I asked a simple question of it seeming unlikely either would want to play for AV again.

Millers ntc doesnt start till July 1. I think TB could get more for Miller alone and if push comes to shove, buyout Callahan

It's not good for business to acquire a player who doesn't want to be here when he's likely literally days away from being able to put that team on the list of no trade teams. It did not work out well for Columbus when the Flyers traded Jeff Carter to them under a very similar circumstance.

And Berglund in Buffalo

So what, then we flip him elsewhere and get better than a 3rd back. If the player doesn't have a NTC at the time of the trade, he has no say in the matter.

But if Callahan feels the same way they'll have to buy him out and then deal Miller while holding no leverage. They might end up with only swapping a 3rd for a 2nd but have dead cap space for 2 years from Callahan. Ouch. I wouldn't go looking for many former players wanting to play for AV again. And if Fletcher wants a former AV player he better find out that player's feelings toward the coach before making such a trade.

Who cares what Callahan thinks, if we aren't on his no trade list then he can ride the pressbox for the year or retire, we don't have to buy him out.

You have a good feel for the human element of the game.

The NHL is a business.

Helping Tampa makes a lot of sense, but Miller is more of a winger than a center. Not exactly thrilled about taking back Callahan, but I guess it's not too bad considering only a third was moved for Miller. Where is Scott Laughton in all of this? Looks like he wasn't resigned, but he's definitely a better 4C option than Voroybev at this point.

My bad on Laughton, I had him in the deal to a Tampa and reversed it but forgot to re-add him.