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Trades with TOR and BUF plus a few UFAs

Created by: CaptJosef
Initial Creation Date: Apr 17, 2019
Published: Apr 17, 2019 at 8:43 pm
Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers
Team Explanation
The Leafs trade is essentially a $4m offer sheet for Kapanen (which would be a second round pick compensation) which is then worked into a trade to free some more cap for the Leafs while giving them a decent RHD back for the shorter term plus an additional pick and good forward prospect to sweeten things.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Provorov, Ivan6$6,800,000
Konecny, Travis8$6,000,000
Sanheim, Travis2$3,800,000
Laughton, Scott2$2,200,000
Hartman, Ryan2$2,000,000
Kapanen, Kasperi4$4,000,000
Bailey, Justin2$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hayes, Kevin6$6,800,000
Talbot, Cam2$2,250,000
Zuccarello, Mats4$4,800,000
Vecchione, Michael2$800,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi [RFA Rights]
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita ($750,000 retained)
TOR
  1. Gudas, Radko ($1,675,000 retained)
  2. Ratcliffe, Isaac
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (PHI)
  4. 2020 4th round pick (NSH)
PHI
  1. Samuelsson, Mattias [Reserve List]
  2. 2019 1st round pick (SJS)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Voracek, Jakub
  2. Hägg, Robert
Buyouts
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Radko Gudas: $1,675,000 (71.43%)
  • Radko Gudas: $1,005,000 (30%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
PHI
SJS
PHI
NJD
PHI
PHI
PHI
ARI
PHI
MTL
2020
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
BUF
PHI
PHI
PHI
2021
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$78,398,055$0$2,995,000$4,601,945
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
PHI
Konecny, Travis
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
Hayes, Kevin
$6,800,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Zuccarello, Mats
$4,800,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
PHI
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Kapanen, Kasperi
$4,000,000
RW
RFA - 3
PHI
Raffl, Michael
$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
PHI
Laughton, Scott
$2,200,000
C
UFA - 2
PHI
Hartman, Ryan
$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Provorov, Ivan
$6,800,000
LD
UFA - 6
PHI
Sanheim, Travis
$3,800,000
RD
RFA - 2
PHI
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 2
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 4
TOR
Zaitsev, Nikita
$3,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 5
PHI
Talbot, Cam
$2,250,000
G
UFA - 1
PHI
Morin, Samuel
$700,000
LD
RFA - 2
PHI
Myers, Philippe
$678,889
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PHI
Schlemko, David
$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
PHI
Vecchione, Michael
$800,000
C
UFA - 1
PHI
Bailey, Justin
$750,000
RW
RFA - 1

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Apr 17, 2019 at 8:45
#1
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Why Zaitsev? Gudas is better than him and only has a year left. Why add another AMac contract?
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Apr 17, 2019 at 9:08
#2
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I'd like to not part with that first round pick but I am highly interested from Buffalo. I'd switch the first for a coming second or third and a young forward?
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Apr 17, 2019 at 9:18
#3
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Take out the salary retention on Zaitsev and you get closer. With it, you're not getting a deal done
Apr 17, 2019 at 11:54
#4
First NY Then LA
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Why Zaitsev? Gudas is better than him and only has a year left. Why add another AMac contract?


Why Zaitsev? Because you're getting Kapanen, for as long as you want him.
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Apr 18, 2019 at 3:34
#5
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Why Zaitsev? Gudas is better than him and only has a year left. Why add another AMac contract?


Meh, Zaitsev divides opinion. I think he's a decent defensive defender and I think that's what we could do with. He tends to play hard shifts not unlike Provorov and that comes with the 'he's rubbish' baggage. I like Gudas but I'm looking for guys with more passing ability.

I recognise that's not everyone's take but also a lot of those people are wrong halo
Apr 18, 2019 at 3:37
#6
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Quoting: Chapee44
I'd like to not part with that first round pick but I am highly interested from Buffalo. I'd switch the first for a coming second or third and a young forward?


For the right player that could work, but it'd need to be a guy who's equally: a good prospect but also not knocking on the door this second as there's no roster spaces.
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Apr 18, 2019 at 10:05
#7
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RFA signings are interesting; Laughton and Hartman are probably a bit too high but the TK contract isn't something that I expected to see. That being said, I don't think that's a bad deal just not one that I think is realistic based on what he's shown so far (ie, I don't see him getting 8 years but I wouldn't complain about that). Kapanen might be a bit too low. I'm not exactly a fan of that Buffalo trade or the Zuc signing. That's not to say Zuc is bad; I'd just rather have Jake over him.
Apr 18, 2019 at 10:09
#8
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Quoting: CaptJosef
For the right player that could work, but it'd need to be a guy who's equally: a good prospect but also not knocking on the door this second as there's no roster spaces.


Would you take Tage Thompson with a future second? Stick him in the minors like we should have. He also has RFA protection unlike Bailey for when their contracts expire.
Apr 18, 2019 at 10:10
#9
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Why Zaitsev? Because you're getting Kapanen, for as long as you want him.


I don't care if we get Kapanen, I'd rather offer-sheet him and give up picks than have to take another AMac contract just as AMac's is expiring.
Apr 18, 2019 at 10:10
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Quoting: Chapee44
Would you take Tage Thompson with a future third? Stick him in the minors like we should have. He also has RFA protection unlike Bailey for when their contracts expire.


Voracek for Tage and a 3rd...hell no!
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Apr 18, 2019 at 10:12
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Voracek for Tage and a 3rd...hell no!


Changed the request to Tage and a second.
Apr 18, 2019 at 10:15
#12
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Quoting: Chapee44
Changed the request to Tage and a second.


not even close. Tage hasn't proven anything and Voracek is a perennial 60+ point player.
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Apr 18, 2019 at 10:18
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
not even close. Tage hasn't proven anything and Voracek is a perennial 60+ point player.


The whole premise was swapping out a late first round pick for a prospect and a slightly lower pick... The rest of the trade still being there but taking a pick at like 28 and switching it for Tage and 36 in a year.
Apr 18, 2019 at 10:28
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Quoting: Chapee44
The whole premise was swapping out a late first round pick for a prospect and a slightly lower pick... The rest of the trade still being there but taking a pick at like 28 and switching it for Tage and 36 in a year.


I think in a trade for Voracek we would need Nylander plus late round picks don't really help us as we have a deep prospect pool. Honestly I think we would only trade Jake for an upgrade at D or in a package for 2 NHL players.
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Apr 18, 2019 at 10:52
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I think in a trade for Voracek we would need Nylander plus late round picks don't really help us as we have a deep prospect pool. Honestly I think we would only trade Jake for an upgrade at D or in a package for 2 NHL players.


I can appreciate that. I'm just going off the trade that was suggested in the post.
Apr 18, 2019 at 11:03
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Quoting: Btosh
RFA signings are interesting; Laughton and Hartman are probably a bit too high but the TK contract isn't something that I expected to see. That being said, I don't think that's a bad deal just not one that I think is realistic based on what he's shown so far (ie, I don't see him getting 8 years but I wouldn't complain about that). Kapanen might be a bit too low. I'm not exactly a fan of that Buffalo trade or the Zuc signing. That's not to say Zuc is bad; I'd just rather have Jake over him.


Part of this is to free up cap elsewhere but part is to bring in a lot more speed down the wings. Zuc and Kapenen are both much quicker than Jake and I feel they are more likely to buy into Vigneault's pacey pressing approach. Essentially you get those two for the cost of Jake too.
Apr 18, 2019 at 6:29
#17
future lamentation
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I think in a trade for Voracek we would need Nylander plus late round picks don't really help us as we have a deep prospect pool. Honestly I think we would only trade Jake for an upgrade at D or in a package for 2 NHL players.


Quoting: Chapee44
I can appreciate that. I'm just going off the trade that was suggested in the post.


If you are looking for defense, who needs to add to Ristolainen for Voracek trade? Bogosian may fit into the Flyers playing style a little better, but you would want a better player IMO.
Adding Voracek would be great, I am a bit worried that his contract is well beyond his most productive years, but if I wanted to make the play offs next year, adding him would certainly bring that hope a lot closer.
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