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If Marner wants 11 let him walk

Created by: jloose
Initial Creation Date: Apr 26, 2019
Published: Apr 26, 2019 at 10:07
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Obviously highly unlikely, but I would cal Marners (more likely his agents) bluff on an offer sheet. He wants to play in his home town and if hes ballsy enough to sign and offer sheet then you try the following:


take the 4 1st's and 11 mil space sign one of panarin/skinner/karlsson.
Brown/Zaitsev move for space
At that point you have 4mil in cap space and 3 1sts round pick in the next 2 drafts.

fill the RD slot with: Kap or Johnsson + 1st + prospect + ....

Still left with 4 1sts in 2020 and 2021 (lots of ammo for further trades)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell7$11,500,000
Kapanen, Kasperi3$3,000,000
Johnsson, Andreas2$2,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Panarin, Artemi7$10,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya1$800,000
Trades
TOR
  1. 2019 1st round pick (NYI)
  2. 2020 1st round pick (NYI)
  3. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
2022 1st
NYI
  1. Marner, Mitchell
Additional Details:
Offer Sheet
TOR
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
TOR
  1. 2019 6th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Gauthier, Frédérik
TOR
  1. 2019 6th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
TOR
  1. Spurgeon, Jared
MIN
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Bracco, Jeremy
  3. 2019 1st round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
TOR
EDM
TOR
TOR
STL
TOR
MTL
LAK
TOR
DAL
2020
TOR
NYI
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
EDM
SJS
2021
TOR
NYI
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$84,741,366$0$0-$1,741,366
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
Panarin, Artemi
$10,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
Mikheyev, Ilya
$800,000
TOR
Marleau, Patrick
$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
$775,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Marleau, Patrick
$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$5,187,500
RD
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Sparks, Garret
$750,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Rosén, Calle
$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1

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Apr 26, 2019 at 10:13
#1
Dwight_Schrute
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Fairly realistic although I hope the new Oiler GM doesnt pay that much for Connor Brown ...
Apr 26, 2019 at 10:18
#2
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I wouldn't be taking 4 1sts that will be between 16-32. You'd be better to match and then trade him.
Apr 26, 2019 at 10:25
#3
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I wouldn't be taking 4 1sts that will be between 16-32. You'd be better to match and then trade him.


Can’t trade marner after an offersheet match for 1 filull calendar year from date of first refusal.

You also will not be able to sign any of those UFA’s. They will be signed early morning July 1st about 3 hours before an offersheet comes in on marner.
Apr 26, 2019 at 10:35
#4
#LeafsFever
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That trade for Jared Spurgeon is g-d awful! And if somehow the Leafs caved into Marner's ridiculous demand, I imagine they would look to trade Matthews. You could not have 3 forwards making $11 million or more, plus Matthews' deal only runs 5 years, and you can bet his next contract will quite a bit more. Perhaps Toronto looks once again to LA and deal him for Doughty, Kempe and their 2 1st rounders in 2019 (one of which is our pick) and then draft Dylan Cozens 4th overall. Kempe would take over at 3C and you'd be free to trade Kadri, since I believe Cozens is NHL ready and would slot in behind Tavares. So, at least the Leafs would be spreading that $11 million around their lineup and Doughty is not too shabby of a D, and he would be reunited with Muzzin.
Apr 26, 2019 at 10:43
#5
exo2769
Joined: Jul 2015
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Here's the hard part about the offer sheet from TOR's perspective. The different between $11M and $10.1M is VAST from the Leaf's perspective (4 1sts vs 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd) BUT to the buyer and to Marner...it's just $900k. So what happens if a team that has cap...like the Blackhawks offer sheet him 5 years $10.1M...AFTER this years draft? That's (2) 1sts (NOT the #3OA) a 2nd and 3rd. Those are still indeed 1st round picks, but they could easily be 20-30 vs having Marner. HUGE loss for the Leafs. Same problem for TBL and Point.
Apr 26, 2019 at 10:54
#6
rangersandislesfan
Joined: Mar 2017
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Likes: 3,425
As an Isles fan, i say NO. Why offer sheet him? You lose 4 1sts and have to pay him 11.5M per year. Not worth it in the end.
Apr 26, 2019 at 10:59
#7
Joined: Feb 2019
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Marner and Borgman for S.Jones and 6th roundpick???????
Apr 26, 2019 at 11:11
#8
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Can’t trade marner after an offersheet match for 1 filull calendar year from date of first refusal.

You also will not be able to sign any of those UFA’s. They will be signed early morning July 1st about 3 hours before an offersheet comes in on marner.


Even worse situation for the Leafs then...
Apr 26, 2019 at 11:35
#9
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Even worse situation for the Leafs then...


I think you just have to work something out with the kid. He wants to play here we want him here. Something will work in the middle.
Apr 26, 2019 at 12:24
#10
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Or just trade him(his rights) to a team with a high draft pick and get a solid RHD coming back. Example- To the NYR for 2019 1st(Kakko) and Deangelo or Pionk and maybe something else small. That way you get a top 4 RHD and a replacement for Marner and you get to keep everyone else. Unless you really want to move Nylander.
 
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