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We need a rhd if we cannot sign Marner also is the trade fair

Created by: PJoseph13
Initial Creation Date: Apr 26, 2019
Published: Apr 26, 2019 at 1:37 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Johnsson, Andreas2$3,500,000
Kapanen, Kasperi2$3,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Ekblad, Aaron
  2. 2019 7th round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Marner, Mitchell [RFA Rights]
  2. Borgman, Andreas
  3. 2020 6th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
TOR
TOR
TOR
STL
TOR
TOR
DAL
FLA
2020
TOR
TOR
TOR
EDM
TOR
TOR
EDM
SJS
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$84,702,199$0$82,500-$1,702,199
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,500,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Marleau, Patrick
$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Bracco, Jeremy
$842,500
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Marleau, Patrick
$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
$775,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
FLA
Ekblad, Aaron
$7,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 5
TOR
Sparks, Garret
$750,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Rosén, Calle
$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1

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Apr 26, 2019 at 1:39
#1
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Who's side are you looking at on the trade to determine fairness?

If Toronto, no

If Florida, they take it and run
Apr 26, 2019 at 1:42
#2
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could almost do

Marner for Ekblad and a high pick,
or
Marner for Ekblad and prospects

Marner is worth more than this
Apr 26, 2019 at 1:45
#3
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Since you've shown willingness to trade Marner within the division, how about this?

Marner (rights) for Petry ($2.75M retained), Suzuki and Brook (or Juulsen or Fleury). Petry is a better offensive threat, but 7 years older.
Apr 26, 2019 at 1:45
#4
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Part of Ekblad's value is that he's signed to a long-term, team friendly contract. Once Florida gets the rest of their **** together, Ekblad will be a perennial Norris candidate. If Marner was signed to an equally reasonable long-term deal, then I would say that Toronto wins this trade. However, a traded Marner is likely signed to an 8-figure contract. Is Marner at $12M better for Florida than Ekblad at $7.5M? I would say no.

I wouldn't do this trade if I were Florida.
Apr 26, 2019 at 1:48
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Florida adds more. Ekblad hasn't shown that he's that bonafide top pair d-man since his rookie season. I'd think to start, add in Henrik Borgstrom from Florida and maybe Florida's 1st round pick from this year's draft. Then maybe a depth roster player. Toronto would add a bit but Florida adds the more value because Marner is the clear cut best player by a lot on this deal. Florida is also probably gonna have to overpay because Toronto is trading Marner to a divisional rival which increases the price by quite a bit
Apr 26, 2019 at 1:48
#6
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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This obsession with RHDsshakes head . Thinking it is the answer to the Leafs and all teams problems. Winnipeg had three quality RHD, Buff, Trouba, Myers...over 18m and where are they?
Montreal...Petry and Weber that's over 13m. Washington (this year)...Nishaken, Carlson and Jensen. Florida with Ekblad.

If you like the deal fine, but thinking that having on additional RHD and expense of the Leafs maybe second best forward is the solution for success, I don't see it.
Apr 26, 2019 at 1:51
#7
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
Since you've shown willingness to trade Marner within the division, how about this?

Marner (rights) for Petry ($2.75M retained), Suzuki and Brook (or Juulsen or Fleury). Petry is a better offensive threat, but 7 years older.


Not even close. And Montreal's price to get Marner would be even higher because it's a historical rival. Doubt Toronto would ever even consider Marner to Montreal unless they massively overpaid
Apr 26, 2019 at 1:58
#8
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Dubas was dealt a ****ty hand, and made it better and worse simultaneously.
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Apr 26, 2019 at 2:01
#9
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Quoting: PJoseph13
Dubas was dealt a ****ty hand


Not sure I agree that having had a half-dozen top-8 picks in a decade is a lousy hand, especially when it's topped up by the best UFA in a generation.
Apr 26, 2019 at 2:07
#10
MK458
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Part of Ekblad's value is that he's signed to a long-term, team friendly contract. Once Florida gets the rest of their **** together, Ekblad will be a perennial Norris candidate. If Marner was signed to an equally reasonable long-term deal, then I would say that Toronto wins this trade. However, a traded Marner is likely signed to an 8-figure contract. Is Marner at $12M better for Florida than Ekblad at $7.5M? I would say no.

I wouldn't do this trade if I were Florida.


I would take Marner at 12 over Ekblad at 7.5 any day of the week. I've watched enough Florida game to know that Ekblad will never be a "perennial Norris candidate". He's a very good 2-way dman, but he's not a top 10 dman in the league, and he probably never will be. Just my opinion, but I think you're overvaluing him.

Edit: Just FYI, I'm the furthest thing from a toronto fan btw, I just understand that Marner is far more valuable than Ekblad
Apr 26, 2019 at 5:16
#11
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Quoting: Caps_Man
Who's side are you looking at on the trade to determine fairness?

If Toronto, no

If Florida, they take it and run


In defence if the offer top dmen are usually worth more than top forwards in trades
 
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