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helping TOR I know its bad to help them

Created by: ericdufour
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 28, 2019
Published: Apr. 28, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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This can only work if Marleau accept, I know and understand that he need to waive his clause

As the prospects perform in the AHL (If they do), if mtl see fit, move them up and move guys like Weise, Alzner or Thompson down in the AHL. With injuries through the year, recall we will be needed.

I don't believe Marleau want to be in MTL, I think he will be more favorable to wave his NTM to San Jose. If MTL can get more of San Jose, good, but at 39 yrs I think a 3rd is a push, but I would like see MTL receiving something significant for retaining 2,500,000$.

Yep, would be nice to see Panarin, Karlsson, Eberle, Skinner, Duchene as UFA in MTL or an offer to Marner, but It's likely not going to happen, its good to try or be in the discussion.

IF MTL is in the position to make the playoff, they will have cap space, prospect and picks to add value to the team for the playoff. Not really optomistic for 19-20, but the future is bright. Price/Weber are getting older, MTL already missed their prime age, hope they age good like good wine (Like Rinne or Giordano ) instead of turning into vinegar

Saving Cap for Domi, Juulsen and Mete increase is important to avoid cap issue in 20-21
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
2$2,100,000
2$2,800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2021 7th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Peca, Matthew
Additional Details:
trade or waiver at the start of the season
2.
MTL
  1. Marleau, Patrick ($1,250,000 retained)
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2021 7th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2021 7th round pick (ANA)
3.
MTL
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Marleau, Patrick ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. 2019 5th round pick (ARI)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the WPG
2020
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2021
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$78,068,809$0$2,675,000$4,931,191
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,800,000$2,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$748,333$748,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3

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Apr. 28, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.
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Wow... this would actually help Toronto. Sorry I’ve just seen so many help Toronto posts where teams try to pillage us and call it helping. The offer for Marleau may be too fair.
Apr. 28, 2019 at 1:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Wow... this would actually help Toronto. Sorry I’ve just seen so many help Toronto posts where teams try to pillage us and call it helping. The offer for Marleau may be too fair.


Quoting: Jamiepo
Wow... this would actually help Toronto. Sorry I’ve just seen so many help Toronto posts where teams try to pillage us and call it helping. The offer for Marleau may be too fair.


in 19-20 MTL have cap space, instead of investing on UFA, just an opportunity to use the cap to gain picks in 2019. TOR will need to eat a bit of salary to be able to turn it over to San Jose, MTL will take what they can at 50%. I don't think Marleau would waive his NTM to many team, SJ might be a favorable place for him. Most contender don't have space and are looking to make space.
Apr. 28, 2019 at 1:45 p.m.
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Quoting: ericdufour
in 19-20 MTL have cap space, instead of investing on UFA, just an opportunity to use the cap to gain picks in 2019. TOR will need to eat a bit of salary to be able to turn it over to San Jose, MTL will take what they can at 50%. I don't think Marleau would waive his NTM to many team, SJ might be a favorable place for him. Most contender don't have space and are looking to make space.


Not bad, just not sure if Marleau waives his NMC for montreal
Apr. 28, 2019 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: JohnTavares91
Not bad, just not sure if Marleau waives his NMC for montreal


MTL for cap retention 2,5m$ then San Jose
Apr. 28, 2019 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: ericdufour
MTL for cap retention 2,5m$ then San Jose


Good thought on the trade. Don't know why some folks couldn't follow your logic in the trades which sent Marleau to San Jose. If Montreal has cap space....retain to the max 3.625m which San Jose would like. even more. Not sure if San Jose has an interest in Marleau even at have price. The bit about helping the Leafs....well the Leafs can probably make that deal with another club, but if Montreal makes the deal they get the 2nd rounder, do why wouldn't the Habs do the deal.
Apr. 28, 2019 at 4:05 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Good thought on the trade. Don't know why some folks couldn't follow your logic in the trades which sent Marleau to San Jose. If Montreal has cap space....retain to the max 3.625m which San Jose would like. even more. Not sure if San Jose has an interest in Marleau even at have price. The bit about helping the Leafs....well the Leafs can probably make that deal with another club, but if Montreal makes the deal they get the 2nd rounder, do why wouldn't the Habs do the deal.


Narleu would be like a rental player at the beginning of the season. He has histoy there and it could be a good fit, but San Jose I think need help on the cap. At 3.625m$ is fine too, MTL has space on the cap for next year.

You are right, the leaf can make the deal somewhere else, but .... why not MTL lol
 
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