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Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: May 1, 2019
Published: May 1, 2019
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Just for fun, throwing mud at the wall.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
2$900,000
2$1,200,000
3$900,000
2$975,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$950,000
1$1,250,000
Trades
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EDM
  1. Fabbri, Robby [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 4th round pick (STL)
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2019
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2020
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2021
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23$83,500,000$74,167,698$0$602,500$9,332,302
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$975,000$975,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW
UFA
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$808,333$808,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$900,000$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
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$2,835,000$2,835,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$675,000$675,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$741,666$741,666
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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May 1, 2019 at 4:46 p.m.
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Not sure why the sabres do this. We would have no use for manning, and 3 years of russell doesnt sound like a great idea. Bogosian played better last year, i mean hes gonna miss 25 games most likely, and hes probably gone after next year. Best case hes healthy and plays well and we move him for mid round pick. Worst case hes terrible and benched or injured and not playing- and still gone at the end of the year.
May 1, 2019 at 4:46 p.m.
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Oh hi Chiarelli, glad you see you found our little site.

Why would NSH do that? They have their 2C in Granlund, RNH is good, but not good enough to negate how negative Lucic's trade value is. PK while not the most valuable asset in the world is worth more than RNH himself, Turris has some negative, but IMO this trade is very lopsided towards EDM.

Blues say absolutely no. Fabbri has had issues with injuries, is worth much more than a 6th D at best, the 4th doesn't make up that difference.

What makes you think the Sabres take on 2 ****ty defensemen for 1 average defenseman who finally had a good season. Sabres have too many bottom 6 D. Plus in trying to shed cap, we're not going to take Russell on for 2 years at 4m instead of keeping Bogo on for only 1 year at a bit over 5.

I think the EDM-TOR trade is the only realistic one here, and Nylander is still more valuable IMO but the postions and team needs may help even out that trade value.
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May 1, 2019 at 4:47 p.m.
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Not sure why the sabres do this. We would have no use for manning, and 3 years of russell doesnt sound like a great idea. Bogosian played better last year, i mean hes gonna miss 25 games most likely, and hes probably gone after next year. Best case hes healthy and plays well and we move him for mid round pick. Worst case hes terrible and benched or injured and not playing- and still gone at the end of the year.


Essentially what I said for Buffalo. But also Russell only has 2 more years.
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May 1, 2019 at 4:50 p.m.
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If you think Larsson gets you Nylander you're delusional
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May 1, 2019 at 4:50 p.m.
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Quoting: timmeejr
Essentially what I said for Buffalo. But also Russell only has 2 more years.


Yeah, thats my fault. I look at the contract years left and this year still shows up.
May 1, 2019 at 4:55 p.m.
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Oh hi Chiarelli, glad you see you found our little site.


ummm... Chiarelli lost every trade. Are you saying Edmonton is losing on all these trades? lol. Your "burn" failed drastically.
May 1, 2019 at 4:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Danes1294
If you think Larsson gets you Nylander you're delusional


It would start with Bouchard. Nylander is great player.
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May 1, 2019 at 5:02 p.m.
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Every team declines and they do it easily.
May 1, 2019 at 5:10 p.m.
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Not sure why the sabres do this. We would have no use for manning, and 3 years of russell doesnt sound like a great idea. Bogosian played better last year, i mean hes gonna miss 25 games most likely, and hes probably gone after next year. Best case hes healthy and plays well and we move him for mid round pick. Worst case hes terrible and benched or injured and not playing- and still gone at the end of the year.


Bogosian played better last year? Better than what? Still not as good as Russell. Check the last 5 years - Russell has had a better GF% every year. Russell can take some of the D-zone assignments away from Ristolainen, Bogo can't.
May 1, 2019 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Danes1294
If you think Larsson gets you Nylander you're delusional


Toronto fans think they can get Larsson for nothing, this is my counterpoint.
May 1, 2019 at 5:39 p.m.
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Quoting: timmeejr
Why would NSH do that? They have their 2C in Granlund, RNH is good, but not good enough to negate how negative Lucic's trade value is. PK while not the most valuable asset in the world is worth more than RNH himself, Turris has some negative, but IMO this trade is very lopsided towards EDM.

This trade needs something added, I'm not sure what. Do you have anything constructive to add?

Turris doesn't bring much to the table if he isn't scoring, and he isn't. Lucic brings a physical element to the game that NSH desperately needs, he gets paid less and his contract is shorter.
NSH is looking to move one of their defensemen, this gives them $3M annual cap savings and $14M overall cash savings. It also gives them the center depth they've always been looking for. RNH is better than Granlund. Also, PK will soon be 30, and scored just 31 points this year, his lowest total ever. He's leaving his prime, RNH is just entering his. PK scored just 20 even strength points, his p/gp rate adn total points are 4th among defenders on his team. He isn't the player he once was - you're basing your comments on his reputation as one of the league's best defensemen, when in reality he's not even one of Nashville's best defensemen.

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Blues say absolutely no. Fabbri has had issues with injuries, is worth much more than a 6th D at best, the 4th doesn't make up that difference.

Fabbri is 23-year-old who has scored 6 points in the past 2 years. He spent most of the season a healthy scratch in St Louis. Wow, and people on here think 20-year-old Puljujarvi is a bust. Clueless.

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What makes you think the Sabres take on 2 ****ty defensemen for 1 average defenseman who finally had a good season. Sabres have too many bottom 6 D. Plus in trying to shed cap, we're not going to take Russell on for 2 years at 4m instead of keeping Bogo on for only 1 year at a bit over 5.

I think you need to check the numbers again - Russell gets better results than Bogosian pretty consistently. Manning was thrown in to make the salary even for the first year - when buried, his cap hit is about $1.1M. Russell has 2 years left, in the second he gets paid just $2.5M.
May 1, 2019 at 5:40 p.m.
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Every team declines and they do it easily.


haha, I've seen some of your AGM's. I'm 100% certain none of these teams is consulting you about which trade to accept.
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May 1, 2019 at 5:59 p.m.
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Nashville:
Turrs @6M > Lucic @6M
Subban > RNH
Easy no from Nashville and contrary to your statement above, Nashville needs more high end offensive skill not grit. We've got plenty of players that will throw the body (Watson, Sissons, Bonino, Johansen, Forsberg, Arvidsson, Etc). What we don't have is anyone beyond the 1st line that can perform offensively regularly. Turris out performed Lucic offensively last season in less games played. He also has no trade protection which will help come expansion draft time.

STL:
No reason to move Fabbri for Benning. Fabbri probably isn't worth much but they don't need benning either so not a move they'd be likely to make let alone adding a 4th on top of it.

Buf:
I'd rather only have 1 more season of Bogo vs 2 with Russell and Manning is useless. Russell and Bogosian are both middling dmen and neither push Buffalo over the top so why waste the extra year of cap.
May 1, 2019 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
It would start with Bouchard. Nylander is great player.


Bouchard isn't the player-type Leafs fans have been clamouring for. Also, Nylander is good but not great. His scoring rates over the past 3 years - despite being zoomed* by Matthews - has him tied with such illustrious names as Staal, Niederreiter and Atkinson.

*If you remove his points scored with Tavares and Matthews over the past 3 years you come up with 1.54 p/60, good for 245th best forward in the league over that period. That's a 3rd line rate.
May 1, 2019 at 6:12 p.m.
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Quoting: herzausstein
Nashville:
Turrs @6M > Lucic @6M
Subban > RNH

What needs to be added? I don't think Subban is as good as his rep anymore - he's clearly the #4 d-man on NSH. Also, Turris' contract is longer than Lucic's, Subban's is longer than RNH's. This deal saves Nashville HUGE money and a lot of cap space.

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What we don't have is anyone beyond the 1st line that can perform offensively regularly.

Nugent-Hopkins provides this.

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Turris out performed Lucic offensively last season in less games played.

Hardly. His on-ice GF/60 was 1.78, Lucic was 1.75. And he wasn't as good defensively, allowing 2.29 GA/60 vs 2.14 for Lucic - despite playing on a much better team.

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He also has no trade protection which will help come expansion draft time.

Any trade will require Lucic to waive his NMC, something that he is willing to do.
May 1, 2019 at 7:47 p.m.
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What needs to be added? I don't think Subban is as good as his rep anymore - he's clearly the #4 d-man on NSH. Also, Turris' contract is longer than Lucic's, Subban's is longer than RNH's. This deal saves Nashville HUGE money and a lot of cap space.


Nugent-Hopkins provides this.


Hardly. His on-ice GF/60 was 1.78, Lucic was 1.75. And he wasn't as good defensively, allowing 2.29 GA/60 vs 2.14 for Lucic - despite playing on a much better team.


Any trade will require Lucic to waive his NMC, something that he is willing to do.


The Subban/Ekholm and Ellis/Josi pairing get about equal time on the ice. Just b/c Nashville has 4 dmen that would be considered top pairing potential doesn't mean that Subban would be a #4 on another team. He'd be the #1 RHD on Edm. That'd be like saying RNH is a #3C b/c he's the third best center on the Oilers behind McDavid and Draisaitl.

Turris can be bought out if all else fails. That's always a good fail safe. His buyout would be 2M caphit Lucic's version is much worse. Lucic wouldn't make it into the top 6 of Nashville and we don't need a bottom 6 plug costing 6M. We could free up 4M of capspace by buying out Turris w/o having to take back Lucic's terrible contract since he wouldn't fill a role the team needs.
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May 1, 2019 at 9:22 p.m.
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haha, I've seen some of your AGM's. I'm 100% certain none of these teams is consulting you about which trade to accept.


True.

But it doesn't change the fact that these trades just suck and only a biased fool can consider them as fair...
May 2, 2019 at 6:27 a.m.
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True.

But it doesn't change the fact that these trades just suck and only a biased fool can consider them as fair...


I never presented them as fair, I wrote "just for fun" and "throwing (ideas) at the wall". Too bad nobody reads the team ex.
May 2, 2019 at 7:20 a.m.
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I never presented them as fair, I wrote "just for fun" and "throwing (ideas) at the wall". Too bad nobody reads the team ex.


In other words, you were trolling.
May 2, 2019 at 7:21 a.m.
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The Subban/Ekholm and Ellis/Josi pairing get about equal time on the ice. Just b/c Nashville has 4 dmen that would be considered top pairing potential doesn't mean that Subban would be a #4 on another team. He'd be the #1 RHD on Edm. That'd be like saying RNH is a #3C b/c he's the third best center on the Oilers behind McDavid and Draisaitl.

I wasn't talking about ice-time specifically, although he's 4th in TOI as well. P/gp, p/60, GF%, giveaways, takeaways. blocked shots, etc - in all these metrics Subban has the worst stats of the top-4. And I realize that he'd be the 1RD in Edmonton, that's why I'm trading for him. The fact that he's your 4th best and highest paid just makes it easier to trade him IMO. It's the least painful.
May 2, 2019 at 7:23 a.m.
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In other words, you were trolling.


... says the guy who has added nothing constructive.
May 2, 2019 at 7:28 a.m.
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... says the guy who has added nothing constructive.


Let me quote you: "haha, I've seen some of your AGM's. I'm 100% certain none of these teams is consulting you about which trade to accept."

This is not asking something constructive. Instead you said that some of my posts are basically illogical and my opinion doesn't really matter.
May 2, 2019 at 7:31 a.m.
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Let me quote you: "haha, I've seen some of your AGM's. I'm 100% certain none of these teams is consulting you about which trade to accept."

This is not asking something constructive. Instead you said that some of my posts are basically illogical and my opinion doesn't really matter.


YOU are the one posting on MY AGM, adding nothing and calling me a troll? shakes head
May 2, 2019 at 7:35 a.m.
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YOU are the one posting on MY AGM, adding nothing and calling me a troll? shakes head


You just admitted that you never considered to make fair trades... Therefore this is a post there's absolutely nothing to say about.
May 2, 2019 at 7:37 a.m.
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You just admitted that you never considered to make fair trades... Therefore this is a post there's absolutely nothing to say about.


And yet, you keep coming back to talk trash.
 
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