They don't want Ghost....they want Myers and his not high ceiling

Well they aren't getting Myers

Ratcliffe
2020 first (top 5 protected)

For

RFA rights W Karlsson


I’d do Ghost for Trouba but the Jets won’t. Not interested in moving Myers or Sanheim. Spurgeon would be my target preferably anyway.

Getting Haula, is nice because we don't have to force Frost or Farabee into the lineup and don't have to sign a UFA for a longer term than we want.

That's my biggest problem with bringing in a big name 2C, Hayes/Nelson/Karlsson in this instance. We have our 2C coming up in Frost. If you sign a guy 4-6 years you are forcing Frost or Patrick to a wing or even halting Frost from coming up for a couple years. Ideally, IMO anyway, 20-21 consist of Coots-Frost-Patrick down the middle. I doubt they would, but I'm fine with overpaying Thornton or Mojo for a 1 year deal to stopgap. Focus on a 3rd line RW (Connolly,Hagelin) and Top 4 dman this offseason.

I’d rather keep Vorobyev as I think he’s a better 4c option long term than Laughton

If Frost makes it I’d almost rather drop Lindblom down to 3LW and use Frost as the 2LW with Jake and Karlsson. I would probably be inclined to do the same if Farabee is the one. Can’t see both making it opening day.

I don't think Frost is going to be a C at the NHL level. I think he will be put on the W just like TK was. So as long as we can get Patrick cheap next year, we should be perfectly fine with what we have. FOr the Flyers, it is $h!t or get off the pot time. The fanbase is frustrated waiting for all the kids to be ready. If it was me, I would ride it out 1 more year when we can get Frost and Farabee in but I doubt that is what will happen.

I don't see either making it opening day which is why we grab Haula. Vorobyov will not be a better 4th liner than Laughton. Laughton can top 9, Vorobyov can't stick with the team. From what I watched of him last year, he isn't anything special.

I don't see either making the lineup opening day. If either do, I'd put them on the wing with Coots & G.

Agreed. I continue riding Laughton as 4C until a young guy proves he can take his spot. Laughton is the ideal 4C who can kill penalties. Take a look at the 2010 run and their entire 4th line is guys comparable to Laughts (Lappy, Betts, Powe)

If Laughtons in our top 9 were ****ed again. Never said Vorobyev was anything special but I still think he’s a better 4c fit than Laughton. Laughton was a wasted pick. I think Frost makes it now that AV is the coach.

How is Laughton a wasted pick? And he is by far a better 4C than Vorobyov. Laughton has grit and has shown some offensive skills. That is exactly what you need from a 4C. Vorobyov hasn't shown that he is even capable of playing in the NHL. From what I have heard, AV doesn't like playing the young kids. Your claims are completely unsubstantiated.

If your mid first round pick only yields a 4C than yes you’ve done something wrong. We could’ve gotten a 4C in the late second round for Christ’s sake. Like I said a wasted pick. My post also said long term.

That isn't how drafting works

But what makes you think he will be any better than Laughton long term? The kid is 22 and has done nothing! Long term, Rubstov may be our best option.

Also, if you look at that draft, we also got Ghost, so what spot you are drafted in, once you get beyond the top 15 or so, doesn't project your NHL role.

Definitely not a wasted pick. How many 1st round picks never make the team let alone become an important piece. Is Laughton going to put up the 87 he did in Oshawa? No, but you cant consider him a wasted pick. You cannot win the cup without a bottom 6. He is an ideal 4C that kills penalties. Laughton is putting up 30 points in the NHL while Vorobyev puts that up in the AHL. I'm much happier with a 24 yr old Laughton for the next 5-6 years than I am a 22 yr old Vorobyev

Go back and look at that draft. There are probably 10-15 players in the entire draft taken after Laughton that you can argue would be a better pick, one of them being Ghost. Would you rather have Laughton right now or that years #1 OA, Yakupov?