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Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 3, 2019
Published: May 3, 2019
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As a Sabres' fan, if any of these trades were offered to Betterall I would love if he could make them. Zaitsev is so under rated by many Leaf fans. As I said below, pair him with Dahlin and then trade one of other 3 defensemen for help with the secondary scoring.
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TOR
  1. 2019 7th round pick (BUF)
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1126272
BUF
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
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OMG please make this trade. I can only dream of pairing Dahlin with Zaitsev.
2.
TOR
    https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/220684 TOR trades Zaitsev, Nikita; Borgman, Andreas; 2020 3rd round pick (TOR) & 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
    OTT
      to OTT for nothing
      This is even better than the first one. I can only imagine Dorion laughing uncontrollably after completing this trade, a 2nd, 3rd and Borgman, for nothing. It is a trade that a GM could only dream about.
      3.
      TOR
        https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/219019 TOR trades Zaitsev, Nikita & 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
        OTT
          for Condon, Mike & DeMelo, Dylan. Dorion tries to contain himself as he wonders what he will do with an extra first round pick next year. DeMelo has value, maybe a 3rd or a 4th while Condon maybe a 6th. So Dorion gets a first and Zaitsev for the value of 2 late picks.
          4.
          TOR
            https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1146589 TOR trades Zaitsev, Nikita ($2,000,000 retained) to BUF for 2019 3rd round pick (BUF)
            https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1144496 TOR trades Zaitsev, Nikita ($2,100,000 retained) to BUF for 2019 4th round pick (SJS)
            https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1139798 TOR trades Zaitsev, Nikita to EDM for 2019 4th round pick (EDM)
            https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1047153 TOR trades Zaitsev, Nikita to BUF for 2019 4th round pick (SJS)
            EDM
              EDM for 2019 4th round pick (EDM)
              These were all similar trading Zaitsev for late picks or retaining some of Zaitsev salary for a 3rd.
              5.
              TOR
                https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1143515 TOR trades Zaitsev, Nikita & 2019 4th round pick (TOR)
                BUF
                  to BUF for Sobotka, Vladimír & 2020 5th round pick (BUF)
                  The draft picks would nearly cancel out, but the Sabres also move Sobotka.
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                  May 3, 2019 at 8:43 a.m.
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                  Honestly i hope as a leaf fan Zairsev is kept. I know he is slightly overpaid but next year he probably is going back on the PP, he is a solid PK dman, and when given a player like Muzzin he has solid shutdown ability.
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                  May 3, 2019 at 9:07 a.m.
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                  I am a Lefas fan too but Zaitsev is not a great shut down D man, especially at 4.5 Million
                  He was in that role becasue the leafs really do not have anyone else for that role. Thats the whole issue with the team, and one of the reasons they are not playing still.
                  Look at all the playoff teams still playing and what they have on there backend.
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                  May 3, 2019 at 9:11 a.m.
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                  Your analysis is highly accurate. Yes, the Leafs lack a pure shutdown defender like Brett Pesce or Josh Manson or even LhD Jonas Brodin, but is that Zaitsev's fault? Half of Leafs Nation seems to think it is.
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                  May 3, 2019 at 9:18 a.m.
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                  Quoting: Leafs09
                  I am a Lefas fan too but Zaitsev is not a great shut down D man, especially at 4.5 Million
                  He was in that role becasue the leafs really do not have anyone else for that role. Thats the whole issue with the team, and one of the reasons they are not playing still.
                  Look at all the playoff teams still playing and what they have on there backend.


                  Let's say you are right and Zaitsev isn't 4.5m value. But the Leafs still need a NHL competent Dman to take his place...and it's not like there are 1m choices available. Some other teams defence seem to get god like status compared to the Leafs. Jets top 7 is paid 32m, Calgarys top 7 paid, paid 26m, and where are they now? Leafs top 7 paid 23m
                  I would welcome any logical trade posted that would see Zaitsev traded that wouldn't weaken the Leaf defence.
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                  May 3, 2019 at 9:30 a.m.
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                  You are right their are not many good trade options out there for him.
                  That is becasue he's overpiad for what he brings and teams do not want him.
                  Leafs do need competent D, but There is much cheapers options out there such as Chariot ?? if you could get a prospect or a pick for Zaitsev.
                  Leafs need to find Cap space somewhere. Should be a interesting off season for us.
                  May 3, 2019 at 9:41 a.m.
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                  Zaitsev is a capable bottom pairing defenceman with PK upside. Problem is, simply put is he is making twice his market value on a long term contract which is a issue for the cap troubled Leafs.

                  GMTD you are completely right that a team with cap room like the Sabres could benefit in a trade for him. They get an overpaid but serviceable, prime aged defender in Zaitsev and an asset or assets as well.

                  As you probably already know I am a Habs fan so the deal I had was:
                  Juulsen and a 2nd
                  For
                  Zaitsev and Kapanen
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                  May 3, 2019 at 3:32 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Leafs09
                  I am a Lefas fan too but Zaitsev is not a great shut down D man, especially at 4.5 Million
                  He was in that role becasue the leafs really do not have anyone else for that role. Thats the whole issue with the team, and one of the reasons they are not playing still.
                  Look at all the playoff teams still playing and what they have on there backend.


                  But who would you replace him with and how much would he be paid. I get that he is not great but he had a very solid series against the bruins due to that he didn't babysit Jake "brainfart" Gardiner. Muzzin being a better allround dman than gardiner allowed Zaitsev to play his natural skill set and did a solid job on 5 v 5 shutting down Bergeron, Marchand and Pastrnak. I do agree the leafs need to upgrade their d but thats is more Reilly's partner and have better depth (though we did have some depth this year in the AHL but they were injured when the leafs needed them). Also, i wouldn't jump on trading Zaitsev seeing he is an Offensive all-round dman who cause of Gardiner and Babcock only putting one dman on a PP unit couldn't get any PP time these past few years. Mark my words if Zaitsev is put back on PP 2 next year he will put up 25-35 pts and with him on the PK he will closer to value next year if that happens.
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                  May 4, 2019 at 10:17 a.m.
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                  Thank you for your comments. Please comment what you believe would be a fair trade. Are any of the proposed trades reasonable?

                  Quoting: PuckPal
                  Honestly i hope as a leaf fan Zaitsev is kept. I know he is slightly overpaid but next year he probably is going back on the PP, he is a solid PK dman, and when given a player like Muzzin he has solid shutdown ability.

                  I agree, unless there is a replacement at a lower cost.
                  Quoting: Leafs09
                  I am a Lefas fan too but Zaitsev is not a great shut down D man, especially at 4.5 Million
                  He was in that role becasue the leafs really do not have anyone else for that role. Thats the whole issue with the team, and one of the reasons they are not playing still.
                  Look at all the playoff teams still playing and what they have on there backend.

                  Good point, but he may be the best shut down defenseman that the Leafs currently have.
                  Quoting: OldNYIfan
                  Your analysis is highly accurate. Yes, the Leafs lack a pure shutdown defender like Brett Pesce or Josh Manson or even LhD Jonas Brodin, but is that Zaitsev's fault? Half of Leafs Nation seems to think it is.

                  Exactly! He is the new whipping boy. I would imagine if he was traded his performance would improve similar to how Kessel's improved.
                  Quoting: palhal
                  Let's say you are right and Zaitsev isn't 4.5m value. But the Leafs still need a NHL competent Dman to take his place...and it's not like there are 1m choices available. Some other teams defence seem to get god like status compared to the Leafs. Jets top 7 is paid 32m, Calgarys top 7 paid, paid 26m, and where are they now? Leafs top 7 paid 23m
                  I would welcome any logical trade posted that would see Zaitsev traded that wouldn't weaken the Leaf defence.

                  Good point. As I asked above, what would be a logical trade that you would accept?
                  Quoting: Jay27
                  Zaitsev is a capable bottom pairing defenceman with PK upside. Problem is, simply put is he is making twice his market value on a long term contract which is a issue for the cap troubled Leafs.
                  GMTD you are completely right that a team with cap room like the Sabres could benefit in a trade for him. They get an overpaid but serviceable, prime aged defender in Zaitsev and an asset or assets as well.

                  As you probably already know I am a Habs fan so the deal I had was:
                  Juulsen and a 2nd
                  For
                  TBH, if he were traded to the Sabres, I would pair him with Dahlin. Dahlin could focus on the offense and Zaitsev on the defense. While I do not watch enough of the Leaf games, what I have seen, I think he would do well in that role.
                  Zaitsev and Kapanen

                  The Leafs may take this deal. Juulsen is a decent prospect, the second would be about 47th and it would save the Leafs at least $8,000,000.
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                  May 4, 2019 at 12:25 p.m.
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                  Quoting: GMTD
                  Thank you for your comments. Please comment what you believe would be a fair trade. Are any of the proposed trades reasonable?

                  A fair Zaitsev trade? We've seen hundreds, heck maybe more. I really only seen a couple. I don't think over teams want to take his 4.5m on a long term contract., though I don't see the actual 4.5m that high. And the Leafs are losing Gardiner and Hainsey can't play Holl and Borgman with regular minutes, so Zaitsev stays.

                  But in your comments you did mention, paring Zaitsev with Dahlin.....seems like a good idea, after all he teamed with the erratic Gardiner for years, so Dahlin will seem like a pleasure for Zaitsev. Actually when Zaitsev was paired with Muzzin, Zaitsev played better and he seemed to regain some puckhandling responibilities and confidence.
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