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Filling needs but leaving room for Frost amp Farabee

Created by: DirtyDangles
Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: May 3, 2019
Published: May 3, 2019
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Description
These trades gets what Fletcher wants now while still allowing room for one of Frost or Farabee in 20/21 and the other in 21/22
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,750,000
8$6,750,000
2$800,000
6$4,650,000
6$6,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,000,000
2$7,000,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
If they move Edmundson

Could be any team
2.
PHI
  1. Johnson, Erik
  2. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
3.
VGK
  1. Ratcliffe, Isaac
  2. Vorobyov, Mikhail
  3. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (STL)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$76,067,222$0$2,995,000$6,932,778
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$6,500,000$6,500,000
C
UFA - 8
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$678,889$678,889
RD
UFA - 1
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$730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
RFA - 2
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$4,650,000$4,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$2,345,000$2,345,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LD
UFA - 1

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May 3, 2019 at 10:17 a.m.
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I think Karlsson is worth more than that. I don’t know how good Vorobeyev is but Karlsson is a good 2-way center who can score and make plays. He also barely ever takes penalties and can draw them
May 3, 2019 at 10:18 a.m.
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Quoting: klondikebar
I think Karlsson is worth more than that. I don’t know how good Vorobeyev is but Karlsson is a good 2-way center who can score and make plays. He also barely ever takes penalties and can draw them


Ya but Vegas also needs to clear a fair amount of cap space. He can also be replaced by Glass.
May 3, 2019 at 10:22 a.m.
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Ya but Vegas also needs to clear a fair amount of cap space. He can also be replaced by Glass.


That’s fair, maybe i would just throw in a couple more picks or another maybe C level prospect. Vegas needs prospects after getting rid of their 2 best ones this seasom
May 3, 2019 at 10:24 a.m.
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That’s fair, maybe i would just throw in a couple more picks or another maybe C level prospect. Vegas needs prospects after getting rid of their 2 best ones this seasom


That would be fine.
May 3, 2019 at 11:01 a.m.
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Interesting trades here. The Colorado trade is tough for two reasons. First, I don't think they'll be inclined to move him. Second, he has a NMC so he'll have to waive it to come to Philly. I get the logic behind the Vegas trade (they need to clear cap) but I don't think they give up both Karlsson and Haula to do that. I'd think you're only going to get one of the two TBH, which is fine so long as what you're sending back isn't as much (ie, don't trade the 2020 1st unless Karlsson is part of the deal).
May 3, 2019 at 11:07 a.m.
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Interesting trades here. The Colorado trade is tough for two reasons. First, I don't think they'll be inclined to move him. Second, he has a NMC so he'll have to waive it to come to Philly. I get the logic behind the Vegas trade (they need to clear cap) but I don't think they give up both Karlsson and Haula to do that. I'd think you're only going to get one of the two TBH, which is fine so long as what you're sending back isn't as much (ie, don't trade the 2020 1st unless Karlsson is part of the deal).


COL has too many D and if they want to keep Barrie (over Johnson) they should move Johnson. He has to list 19 teams he would go to, I think the Flyers would be on that list knowing where they are heading. As for the VGK trade, Haula has 1 more year until UFA status and Vegas is going to sign Gusev which makes Haula redundant (unless they want him for the 4th line...expensive 4th liner!).
May 3, 2019 at 2:15 p.m.
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COL has too many D.


The thing is, EJ (along with Barrie and Makar) is one of their good ones. I guess I just don't really see a reason for them to trade one of their three good ones but you never know.


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As for the VGK trade, Haula has 1 more year until UFA status and Vegas is going to sign Gusev which makes Haula redundant (unless they want him for the 4th line...expensive 4th liner!).


I guess I'd expect them to move Haula and Eakin over Haula and Karlsson to clear cap space. Obviously it's not as much savings, but they Karlsson is probably the best out of the three so I'd think they'll want to keep him however possible. Plus, Stastny only has two years left on his deal going into next season so they'll need to keep a good center around (along with Glass) for when he retires or doesn't resign.
May 3, 2019 at 2:28 p.m.
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The thing is, EJ (along with Barrie and Makar) is one of their good ones. I guess I just don't really see a reason for them to trade one of their three good ones but you never know.




I guess I'd expect them to move Haula and Eakin over Haula and Karlsson to clear cap space. Obviously it's not as much savings, but they Karlsson is probably the best out of the three so I'd think they'll want to keep him however possible. Plus, Stastny only has two years left on his deal going into next season so they'll need to keep a good center around (along with Glass) for when he retires or doesn't resign.


I just don't see COL needing to keep EJ as a 3rd pairing guy. Girard and Zadorov down the left with a 3rd pairing guy seems more than fine. As for VGK, I think with the way UFAs are going now, they should be able to find a solid one when Stastny is done. Moving Eakin and Haula isn't enough savings from the VGK teams I have done. If they are going to lowball Karlsson, he could be open to an offer-sheet as well.
May 3, 2019 at 2:49 p.m.
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I just don't see COL needing to keep EJ as a 3rd pairing guy. Girard and Zadorov down the left with a 3rd pairing guy seems more than fine. As for VGK, I think with the way UFAs are going now, they should be able to find a solid one when Stastny is done. Moving Eakin and Haula isn't enough savings from the VGK teams I have done. If they are going to lowball Karlsson, he could be open to an offer-sheet as well.



Oh, I was thinking EJ, Barrie, Makar down the right so that Makar can get easy matchups early on and take advantage of that. I guess I'm also expecting them to lose Barrie, but even if they don't, you need as many good defensemen as possible to be successful IMO. Having four good ones (the righties plus Girard, I'm not a fan of Zadarov) just makes things easier for everyone.

Regarding Eakin and Haula, they'd be moving out 6.6M by doing that. Karlsson is at 5.25M currently, and scored 0.81 points per game in his Vegas career. If I had to guess, he'll go up to 7M or so; Evolving Wild's model has his projection at 6.682M AAV on a 5 year deal. They could save more money (7.725 instead of 6.6) by moving Eakin and Miller FWIW. There happens to be an Eastern Conference team with cap space and the need for a center and right handed defenseman smile
May 3, 2019 at 3:14 p.m.
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Oh, I was thinking EJ, Barrie, Makar down the right so that Makar can get easy matchups early on and take advantage of that. I guess I'm also expecting them to lose Barrie, but even if they don't, you need as many good defensemen as possible to be successful IMO. Having four good ones (the righties plus Girard, I'm not a fan of Zadarov) just makes things easier for everyone.

Regarding Eakin and Haula, they'd be moving out 6.6M by doing that. Karlsson is at 5.25M currently, and scored 0.81 points per game in his Vegas career. If I had to guess, he'll go up to 7M or so; Evolving Wild's model has his projection at 6.682M AAV on a 5 year deal. They could save more money (7.725 instead of 6.6) by moving Eakin and Miller FWIW. There happens to be an Eastern Conference team with cap space and the need for a center and right handed defenseman smile


They don't just need cash for Karlsson though, they need to pay Gusev who likely will not take less than $4 mil per. As for Makar, I don't think you want to bury him on the 3rd pair. The kid has looked unreal so far and keeping him and Girard together for the next decade would be a smart move. As I said earlier, trading EJ makes keeping Barrie easier and they should want to keep Barrie over EJ.
 
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