Jefflers pegged Marner

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Created by: jfalstaff

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: May 3, 2019

Published: May 3, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

The fair value for Marner is clear: it's about 11% of the cap over 6-7 years. There's no question about that. Here's what the roster looks like after Dubas, having learned from the Nylander negotiation, plays hardball with Marner's agent.

Kapanen and Johnsson get 1 year bridges.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell		5	$9,161,616
Johnsson, Andreas		1	$1,889,198

Trades

TOR

2019 3rd round pick (NYI)

EDM

Brown, Connor

TOR

Hamilton, Dougie

CAR

Kapanen, Kasperi [RFA Rights]
Zaitsev, Nikita
2019 3rd round pick (TOR)

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2019
2020
2021

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,000,000	$77,314,957	$0	$285,000	$5,685,043

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $9,161,616$9,161,616 RW UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas $1,889,198$1,889,198 LW, RW UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Kadri, Nazem $4,500,000$4,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Bracco, Jeremy $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) RW UFA - 1
Marchment, Mason $767,500$767,500 ($132,500$132K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Marleau, Patrick $700,000$700,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Petan, Nicolas $775,000$775,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Hamilton, Dougie $5,750,000$5,750,000 RD UFA - 2
Rosén, Calle $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 2	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1	Sparks, Garret $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro $694,444$694,444 ($70,000$70K) LW UFA - 1
Borgman, Andreas $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1

May 3, 2019 at 3:33 p.m.

staytru20

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Quoting: jfalstaff

Jefflers pegged Marner

He did what?!?!

May 3, 2019 at 3:34 p.m.

Bcarlo25

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there's plenty of question about that.

May 3, 2019 at 3:36 p.m.

palhal

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If Johnsson is eligible for offer sheet....he gets better than that . Even arbitration,, likely better.

May 3, 2019 at 3:40 p.m.

toque

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One of the biggest mistakes Dubas can make would be signing Marner to a 5 year deal, him and matthews must be on different contracts term-wise.

May 3, 2019 at 3:43 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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I'd prefer Pesce to Hamilton. Then you could pay Johnsson something close to what he's worth.

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May 3, 2019 at 3:51 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I'd prefer Pesce to Hamilton. Then you could pay Johnsson something close to what he's worth.

You arent getting either for that price

May 3, 2019 at 3:53 p.m.

jfalstaff

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I'd prefer Pesce to Hamilton. Then you could pay Johnsson something close to what he's worth.

CAR values Pesce more, I thought.

Quoting: palhal

If Johnsson is eligible for offer sheet....he gets better than that . Even arbitration,, likely better.

I trust in Mirtle. 24/25 year olds who have ~60 NHL games in a top-6 role don't get multiyear contracts over $2m. Bring on the arbitrator.

Quoting: Bcarlo25

there's plenty of question about that.

There is none. No player of Marner's age, playing his position, and with his record has ever made over 11% of the cap on his second contract. That's the fair market value.

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May 3, 2019 at 3:54 p.m.

Bcarlo25

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Quoting: jfalstaff

CAR values Pesce more, I thought.

I trust in Mirtle. 24/25 year olds who have ~60 NHL games in a top-6 role don't get multiyear contracts over $2m. Bring on the arbitrator.

There is none. No player of Marner's age, playing his position, and with his record has ever made over 11% of the cap on his second contract. That's the fair market value.

No player had ever made the percentage of the cap Matthews got over a 5 year deal off their entry deal. Then it happened.

May 3, 2019 at 5:25 p.m.

Jangle29

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Quoting: jfalstaff

Thank....you

May 3, 2019 at 5:26 p.m.

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Jangle29

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

No player had ever made the percentage of the cap Matthews got over a 5 year deal off their entry deal. Then it happened.

No player with unreal advanced stats and the best 5 on 5 goal scorer in the league?

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May 3, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Jangle29

No player with unreal advanced stats and the best 5 on 5 goal scorer in the league?

You’re really missing the point here. Rfa negotiations have changed

May 3, 2019 at 5:41 p.m.

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Jangle29

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

You’re really missing the point here. Rfa negotiations have changed

That is a terrible argument thought. That's more of an opinion. The thing that has changed is more teams have decided to gamble on signing early and not waiting till the end. Anyone in their right mind knows the leafs hold the ultimate cards here. He owes us 5 more years of play under the rules of the NHL. We own him if he wants to sit out there are other options

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May 3, 2019 at 5:43 p.m.

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Jangle29

1. He owes you four more years of play under the rules of the NHL.
2. What's changed is players wanting big money for short term (5 or 6 years) off their entry deals so they hit UFA at a younger age.
3. It's not an opinion, it's based on recent signings.

May 3, 2019 at 6:11 p.m.

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jfalstaff

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

No player had ever made the percentage of the cap Matthews got over a 5 year deal off their entry deal. Then it happened.

But Matthew's productivity is unprecedented in the salary cap era. His goal scoring comps was, like, Lindros. There were no post-FIRST-lockout comps to point to. And so you're gonna make contract history when you have a guy making goal-scoring history.

Marner's not quite in that class, unless you rate primary assist rates to be as impressive as goal scoring. But I don't think, despite what Faris would like to think, anyone does.

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May 4, 2019 at 8:11 a.m.

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blowing_the_zone

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Quoting: staytru20

He did what?!?!

Hahaha!

Too many jokes to crack here .. Must walk away.. lol

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