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Big EDM trade if EDM is not on Kadris 10 team no trade

Created by: Grammer77
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2019
Published: May 5, 2019 at 1:25 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell6$10,000,000
Khaira, Jujhar2$1,000,000
Kapanen, Kasperi3$3,000,000
Johnsson, Andreas2$2,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Larsson, Adam
  2. Khaira, Jujhar [RFA Rights]
  3. Benning, Matthew
  4. 2019 3rd round pick (NYI)
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. Kadri, Nazem
TOR
    Don't want to predict this trade....Pick or a player in return. Lou likes Z sorry Isles fans.
    NYI
    1. Zaitsev, Nikita
    Buyouts
    • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
    • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2019
    TOR
    TOR
    NYI
    TOR
    STL
    TOR
    TOR
    DAL
    2020
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    EDM
    SJS
    2021
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,000,000$83,882,198$0$482,500-$882,198
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    TOR
    Hyman, Zach
    $2,250,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    $10,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 6
    TOR
    Johnsson, Andreas
    $2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,634,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    TOR
    Kapanen, Kasperi
    $3,000,000
    RW
    RFA - 3
    TOR
    Moore, Trevor
    $775,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 5
    TOR
    Bracco, Jeremy
    $842,500
    RW
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Marleau, Patrick
    $6,250,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Gauthier, Frédérik
    $675,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    Khaira, Jujhar
    $1,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Marleau, Patrick
    $700,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Petan, Nicolas
    $775,000
    LW, RW, C
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    $5,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    EDM
    Larsson, Adam
    $4,166,666
    RD
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Andersen, Frederik
    $5,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    $4,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 3
    TOR
    Sparks, Garret
    $750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    $863,333
    LD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Benning, Matthew
    $1,900,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    $675,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TOR
    Horton, Nathan
    $5,300,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1

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    May 5, 2019 at 1:29
    #1
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    Replace Benning with a pick in the trade and of that 1.9 spend it this way: 750K to Marner, 500K each to Johnsson and Kapanen
    May 5, 2019 at 1:40
    #2
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    Grammer77
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    I have Marner at 10 because I could see it go both ways up or down. It is a tough contract to predict.

    As for Kap and Johnnson their comparables get around what they got...Specifically looking at Kase. Mantha is a higher end version of Kap.

    For this to work Kadri has to want to go to EDM...I imagine most players have EDM on their no trade lists right now.
    May 5, 2019 at 1:43
    #3
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    i really like Matt Benning, i even did an AGM like this where I traded for Larsson and Benning but it straight up does not make sense for Edmonton. if they're giving up anyone it would only be Larsson for Kapanen, it saves more cap space for both teams (who both drastically need it) and then the Leafs D would look more like this:

    Rielly - Larsson
    Muzzin - Dermott
    Rosen - Liljegren/Holl/other RHD if Liljegren isn't NHL ready
    May 5, 2019 at 2:31
    #4
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    Grammer77
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    Quoting: nhlproduction
    i really like Matt Benning, i even did an AGM like this where I traded for Larsson and Benning but it straight up does not make sense for Edmonton. if they're giving up anyone it would only be Larsson for Kapanen, it saves more cap space for both teams (who both drastically need it) and then the Leafs D would look more like this:

    Rielly - Larsson
    Muzzin - Dermott
    Rosen - Liljegren/Holl/other RHD if Liljegren isn't NHL ready


    That doesn’t make sense for Toronto. Kapanen is controllable as an RFA for multiple years. Age is huge especially in a cap world. There is no way Kap goes the other way with Larson coming back.

    Kadri makes sense due to being similar in age and UFA years.
    May 5, 2019 at 2:55
    #5
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    Rosen is better choice than Benning. No deal with Oilers
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    May 5, 2019 at 2:57
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    Quoting: Grammer77
    That doesn’t make sense for Toronto. Kapanen is controllable as an RFA for multiple years. Age is huge especially in a cap world. There is no way Kap goes the other way with Larson coming back.

    Kadri makes sense due to being similar in age and UFA years.


    It makes no sense for Edmonton to take on Kadri (who can also deny the trade as he has a modified NTC). They're not trading a top 4 RHD for a 3rd line center. Kapanen can keep up with McDavid. The Oilers' biggest issue is speed and wingers. Kapanen fits that bill perfectly. As for Toronto, without Kadri they'd have to put Nylander there as you did with Moore and Bracco. Kadri fits that line better, and Nylander fits the Matthews line better than Kapanen. Trading Kadri can be done but it makes more sense to trade a RW for a D because they have plenty of wingers and Edmonton has none. Kapanen also has more value for the exact reasons you mentioned so you would get more back. Also keep in mind Babcock directly referenced Korshkov and Mikheyev in the press conference after the season, 2 more wingers looking to make the roster.
    May 5, 2019 at 3:25
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    Quoting: nhlproduction
    It makes no sense for Edmonton to take on Kadri (who can also deny the trade as he has a modified NTC). They're not trading a top 4 RHD for a 3rd line center. Kapanen can keep up with McDavid. The Oilers' biggest issue is speed and wingers. Kapanen fits that bill perfectly. As for Toronto, without Kadri they'd have to put Nylander there as you did with Moore and Bracco. Kadri fits that line better, and Nylander fits the Matthews line better than Kapanen. Trading Kadri can be done but it makes more sense to trade a RW for a D because they have plenty of wingers and Edmonton has none. Kapanen also has more value for the exact reasons you mentioned so you would get more back. Also keep in mind Babcock directly referenced Korshkov and Mikheyev in the press conference after the season, 2 more wingers looking to make the roster.


    Quoting: nhlproduction
    It makes no sense for Edmonton to take on Kadri (who can also deny the trade as he has a modified NTC). They're not trading a top 4 RHD for a 3rd line center. Kapanen can keep up with McDavid. The Oilers' biggest issue is speed and wingers. Kapanen fits that bill perfectly. As for Toronto, without Kadri they'd have to put Nylander there as you did with Moore and Bracco. Kadri fits that line better, and Nylander fits the Matthews line better than Kapanen. Trading Kadri can be done but it makes more sense to trade a RW for a D because they have plenty of wingers and Edmonton has none. Kapanen also has more value for the exact reasons you mentioned so you would get more back. Also keep in mind Babcock directly referenced Korshkov and Mikheyev in the press conference after the season, 2 more wingers looking to make the roster.


    Quoting: nhlproduction
    It makes no sense for Edmonton to take on Kadri (who can also deny the trade as he has a modified NTC). They're not trading a top 4 RHD for a 3rd line center. Kapanen can keep up with McDavid. The Oilers' biggest issue is speed and wingers. Kapanen fits that bill perfectly. As for Toronto, without Kadri they'd have to put Nylander there as you did with Moore and Bracco. Kadri fits that line better, and Nylander fits the Matthews line better than Kapanen. Trading Kadri can be done but it makes more sense to trade a RW for a D because they have plenty of wingers and Edmonton has none. Kapanen also has more value for the exact reasons you mentioned so you would get more back. Also keep in mind Babcock directly referenced Korshkov and Mikheyev in the press conference after the season, 2 more wingers looking to make the roster.


    Quoting: nhlproduction
    It makes no sense for Edmonton to take on Kadri (who can also deny the trade as he has a modified NTC). They're not trading a top 4 RHD for a 3rd line center. Kapanen can keep up with McDavid. The Oilers' biggest issue is speed and wingers. Kapanen fits that bill perfectly. As for Toronto, without Kadri they'd have to put Nylander there as you did with Moore and Bracco. Kadri fits that line better, and Nylander fits the Matthews line better than Kapanen. Trading Kadri can be done but it makes more sense to trade a RW for a D because they have plenty of wingers and Edmonton has none. Kapanen also has more value for the exact reasons you mentioned so you would get more back. Also keep in mind Babcock directly referenced Korshkov and Mikheyev in the press conference after the season, 2 more wingers looking to make the roster.


    Quoting: nhlproduction
    It makes no sense for Edmonton to take on Kadri (who can also deny the trade as he has a modified NTC). They're not trading a top 4 RHD for a 3rd line center. Kapanen can keep up with McDavid. The Oilers' biggest issue is speed and wingers. Kapanen fits that bill perfectly. As for Toronto, without Kadri they'd have to put Nylander there as you did with Moore and Bracco. Kadri fits that line better, and Nylander fits the Matthews line better than Kapanen. Trading Kadri can be done but it makes more sense to trade a RW for a D because they have plenty of wingers and Edmonton has none. Kapanen also has more value for the exact reasons you mentioned so you would get more back. Also keep in mind Babcock directly referenced Korshkov and Mikheyev in the press conference after the season, 2 more wingers looking to make the roster.


    Kadri is not a 3rd line centre....come on. Just because he plays behind Matthews/JT does not make him a 3rd like centre in the NHL.

    He’s a top 6 C. A top 6 C gets you a 2nd pairing D.

    It’s not too hard to get. Kadri has 3 years and Larson has 2. Both similar cap hits.
    May 5, 2019 at 6:04
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    Quoting: Grammer77
    Kadri is not a 3rd line centre....come on. Just because he plays behind Matthews/JT does not make him a 3rd like centre in the NHL.

    He’s a top 6 C. A top 6 C gets you a 2nd pairing D.

    It’s not too hard to get. Kadri has 3 years and Larson has 2. Both similar cap hits.


    Kadri is not better than McDavid, Draisaitl or Nuge. On Edmonton he's a 3rd line center. Gotta look at both sides bud
     
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