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Montreal Canadiens V4

Created by: unbjoncar
Initial Creation Date: May 7, 2019
Published: May 7, 2019 at 10:29 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
GM Name: unbjoncar
GM Twitter: @TNF1_habs4life
AGM Name: N/A
AGM Twitter: N/A
Head Coach: Claude Julien
Associate Coach: Kirk Muller
Assistant Coaches: Dominique Ducharme, Luke Richardson

14/20 Trades Completed in Offseason
1/6 Trades Completed in September
{{Player Rights}}

Cole Fonstad - June 1st, 2020
Max Friberg - June 30th, 2020
Jack Gorniak - August 15th, 2022
Jordan Harris - August 15th, 2022
Arvid Henriksson - August 15th, 2023
Cameron Hillis - June 1st, 2020
Samuel Houde - June 1st, 2020
Joni Ikonen - June 1st, 2021
Nikolas Koberstein - August 15th, 2019
Allan McShane - June 1st, 2020
Jacob Olofsson - June 1st, 2022
Alexander Romanov - INDEFINITE
Brett Stapley - August 15, 2022
Jarrett Tyszka - June 1st, 2019
Scott Walford - June 1st, 2019
Jesse Ylonen - June 1st, 2022

{{2019 Draft Picks}}

Round 1: DAL
Round 2: MTL, CBJ
Round 3: MTL
Round 4: MTL, SJS
Round 5: ARI, CHI, EDM
Round 6: MTL
Round 7: WPG

49/50 Contracts
55/90 Players (Signed and Unsigned)

{{Expansion Protection List}}

- Jonathan Drouin
- Tomas Tatar
- Artturi Lehkonen
- Max Domi
- Phillip Danault
- Brendan Gallagher
- Andrew Shaw

- Shea Weber
- Jeff Petry
- Brett Kulak

- Carey Price

{{Trade Block}}

- Matthew Peca
- Andrew Shaw

{{Untouchables}}

- Shea Weber
- Carey Price
- Jonathan Drouin
- Jesperi Kotkaniemi
- Tomas Tatar
- Max Domi
- Olli Juolevi
- Nick Suzuki
- Timothy Liljegren

{{Team Needs}}
- Left Handed Defensemen
- Backup Goaltender
- Bottom 6 Forwards

{{In The System}}

- Jake Evans
- Nick Suzuki
- Michael McCarron
- Lukas Vejdemo
- Hayden Verbeek
- Alexandre Alain
- Joel Teasdale
- Michael Pezzetta
- Antoine Waked
- Daniel Audette
- Hunter Shinkaruk
- David Sklenicka
- Josh Brook
- Cale Fleury
- Gustav Olofsson
- Xavier Ouellet
- Brett Lernout
- Otto Leskinen
- Michael McNiven
- Cayden Primeau
- Jonah Gadjovich

{{Potential UFAs}}

- Antti Niemi

{{Potential RFAs}}

- Joel Armia - SIGNED
- Brett Kulak - SIGNED
- Michael McCarron - SIGNED
- Artturi Lehkonen - SIGNED
- Gustav Olofsson
- Mike Reilly - SIGNED
- Xavier Ouellet - SIGNED
- Daniel Audette - SIGNED
- Brett Lernout
- Charles Hudon - SIGNED
- Hunter Skinkaruk - SIGNED
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Armia, Joel2$2,000,000
Lehkonen, Artturi3$1,500,000
Kulak, Brett2$1,300,000
McCarron, Michael1$900,000
Edmundson, Joel4$3,000,000
Janmark, Mattias3$2,000,000
Hudon, Charles3$1,000,000
Ouellet, Xavier2$900,000
Reilly, Mike2$900,000
Shinkaruk, Hunter1$700,000
Erne, Adam2$1,000,000
Pouliot, Derrick1$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Eberle, Jordan7$10,500,000
Chiarot, Ben3$2,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Boucher, Reid2$800,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Demko, Thatcher
Additional Details:
Trade with Quebec
May 20, 2019
VAN
  1. 2019 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
    Quebec Expansion Pick
    ANA
    1. Byron, Paul
    MTL
    1. Gadjovich, Jonah
    2. Juolevi, Olli
    3. 2019 2nd round pick (VAN)
    VAN
    1. Gallagher, Brendan
    MTL
    1. Liljegren, Timothy
    2. Petan, Nicolas
    TOR
    1. Juulsen, Noah
    2. Pezzetta, Michael
    MTL
    1. Edmundson, Joel [RFA Rights]
    STL
    1. Mete, Victor
    MTL
    1. Dellandrea, Ty
    2. Janmark, Mattias [RFA Rights]
    3. 2019 1st round pick (DAL)
    DAL
    1. Lehkonen, Artturi
    2. Petry, Jeff
    Additional Details:
    UFA Rights to Jordie Benn
    MTL
    1. De La Rose, Jacob
    2. 2021 4th round pick (DET)
    DET
    1. Weal, Jordan
    MTL
    1. Sheary, Conor
    2. 2019 4th round pick (SJS)
    BUF
    1. Armia, Joel
    2. 2019 2nd round pick (VAN)
    MTL
    1. Erne, Adam [RFA Rights]
    TBL
    1. 2020 4th round pick (WPG)
    2. 2020 7th round pick (MTL)
    MTL
    1. Pouliot, Derrick [RFA Rights]
    VAN
    1. 2020 4th round pick (MTL)
    MTL
    1. Baertschi, Sven
    2. Sautner, Ashton
    Additional Details:
    Rights to Matt Brassard
    VAN
    1. Ylönen, Jesse [Reserve List]
    2. Kulak, Brett
    3. Brook, Josh
    4. Verbeek, Hayden
    MTL
      Kevin Shattenkirk (1.5 million retained)
      NJD
      1. Janmark, Mattias
      2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
      MTL
      1. Shattenkirk, Kevin ($1,500,000 retained)
      Additional Details:
      Acquired in New Jersey trade
      NYR
        MTL
          Reid Boucher
          VAN
          1. Shaw, Andrew
          MTL
          1. Lockwood, William [Reserve List]
          VAN
            Future Considerations

            Added to the Shaw trade previously.
            MTL
            1. Johnson, Erik
            COL
            1. Dellandrea, Ty
            2. Shinkaruk, Hunter
            3. 2021 4th round pick (MTL)
            MTL
            1. Cramarossa, Joseph
            2. Crosby, Sidney
            3. Ölund, Linus
            PIT
            1. Poehling, Ryan
            2. Shattenkirk, Kevin
            3. Suzuki, Nick
            4. Juolevi, Olli
            5. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
            Additional Details:
            Rights to William Lockwood
            MTL
            1. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
            2. 2021 3rd round pick (CGY)
            CGY
            1. Pouliot, Derrick
            MTL
              Waiver Claim
              SJS
              1. Erne, Adam
              MTL
              1. Gaudreau, Johnny
              2. Roman, Milos [Reserve List]
              CGY
              1. Domi, Max
              2. Danault, Phillip
              MTL
                Future Considerations

                ** Trade with Quebec
                ANA
                1. Weise, Dale
                2. Peca, Matthew
                3. 2020 6th round pick (MTL)
                MTL
                1. Nieto, Matt
                COL
                1. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
                MTL
                  Waiver Claim
                  DAL
                  1. Baertschi, Sven
                  MTL
                    Waiver Claim
                    CAR
                    1. Reilly, Mike
                    MTL
                    1. Ehn, Christoffer
                    DET
                      Waiver Claim
                      Buyouts
                      • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
                      • Karl Alzner: $1,069,444
                      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
                      2019
                      DAL
                      MTL
                      CBJ
                      MTL
                      MTL
                      SJS
                      ARI
                      CHI
                      EDM
                      MTL
                      WPG
                      2020
                      MTL
                      MTL
                      2021
                      MTL
                      MTL
                      MTL
                      CGY
                      DET
                      MTL
                      MTL
                      MTL
                      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
                      21$83,000,000$81,449,087$0$2,765,000$1,550,913
                      Left WingCenterRight Wing
                      CGY
                      Gaudreau, Johnny
                      $6,750,000
                      LW
                      UFA - 3
                      PIT
                      Crosby, Sidney
                      $8,700,000
                      C
                      NMC
                      UFA - 6
                      Eberle, Jordan
                      $10,500,000
                      RW
                      NTC
                      UFA - 5
                      MTL
                      Drouin, Jonathan
                      $5,500,000
                      LW, RW, C
                      UFA - 4
                      MTL
                      Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
                      $925,000
                      C, LW
                      RFA - 2
                      MTL
                      Tatar, Tomas
                      $4,800,000
                      LW, RW
                      UFA - 2
                      DET
                      De La Rose, Jacob
                      $900,000
                      C, LW
                      RFA - 1
                      TOR
                      Petan, Nicolas
                      $775,000
                      LW, RW, C
                      RFA - 2
                      BUF
                      Sheary, Conor
                      $3,000,000
                      LW, RW
                      UFA - 1
                      COL
                      Nieto, Matt
                      $1,975,000
                      LW, RW
                      UFA - 1
                      MTL
                      Thompson, Nate
                      $1,000,000
                      C
                      UFA - 1
                      MTL
                      Deslauriers, Nicolas
                      $950,000
                      RW, LW
                      UFA - 1
                      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                      Edmundson, Joel
                      $3,000,000
                      LD
                      UFA - 1
                      MTL
                      Weber, Shea
                      $7,857,143
                      RD
                      UFA - 7
                      MTL
                      Price, Carey
                      $10,500,000
                      G
                      NMC
                      UFA - 7
                      Chiarot, Ben
                      $2,500,000
                      LD
                      NTC
                      UFA - 3
                      COL
                      Johnson, Erik
                      $6,000,000
                      RD
                      NMC NTC
                      UFA - 4
                      VAN
                      Demko, Thatcher
                      $1,050,000
                      G
                      RFA - 2
                      MTL
                      Fleury, Cale
                      $771,666
                      RD
                      RFA - 2
                      MTL
                      Folin, Christian
                      $800,000
                      RD
                      UFA - 1
                      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                      DET
                      Ehn, Christoffer
                      $759,167
                      C, LW
                      RFA - 1

                      Non-Roster

                      Left WingCenterRight Wing
                      MTL
                      Hudon, Charles
                      $1,000,000
                      LW, RW
                      RFA - 1
                      MTL
                      McCarron, Michael
                      $900,000
                      RW, C
                      RFA - 1
                      MTL
                      Alain, Alexandre
                      $753,333
                      RW, C
                      RFA - 2
                      Boucher, Reid
                      $800,000
                      PIT
                      Ölund, Linus
                      $775,833
                      C
                      RFA - 2
                      MTL
                      Waked, Antoine
                      $726,667
                      RW
                      RFA - 1
                      VAN
                      Gadjovich, Jonah
                      $783,333
                      LW
                      RFA - 3
                      PIT
                      Cramarossa, Joseph
                      $700,000
                      C
                      UFA - 1
                      MTL
                      Vejdemo, Lukas
                      $792,500
                      C, LW, RW
                      RFA - 1
                      MTL
                      Evans, Jake
                      $925,000
                      C, RW
                      RFA - 1
                      MTL
                      Teasdale, Joël
                      $763,333
                      C
                      RFA - 3
                      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                      MTL
                      Ouellet, Xavier
                      $900,000
                      LD
                      RFA - 1
                      TOR
                      Liljegren, Timothy
                      $863,333
                      RD
                      RFA - 3
                      MTL
                      Lindgren, Charlie
                      $750,000
                      G
                      UFA - 2
                      MTL
                      Sklenička, David
                      $925,000
                      LD
                      UFA - 1
                      VAN
                      Sautner, Ashton
                      $675,000
                      LD
                      RFA - 1
                      MTL
                      McNiven, Michael
                      $682,222
                      G
                      RFA - 1
                      MTL
                      Leskinen, Otto
                      $925,000
                      LD
                      RFA - 2
                      MTL
                      Primeau, Cayden
                      $880,833
                      G
                      RFA - 3

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                      May 27, 2019 at 2:24
                      #51
                      Joined: Dec 2016
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                      Quoting: unbjoncar
                      I've been doing that. Starting high, then negotiating from there.


                      Another option is finding an agm who can help. Having an extra set of eyes can help find flaws/hidden value in trades you possibly didn’t see
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                      May 27, 2019 at 2:25
                      #52
                      we can.. and we will
                      Joined: May 2017
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                      Quoting: unbjoncar
                      I've been doing that. Starting high, then negotiating from there.


                      That's the issue. Find a good return that you need and stay firm with it. Don't let people sweet talk you down from what you know is best for your team. Trust me, it took me way to long to learn that.
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                      May 27, 2019 at 3:45
                      #53
                      TOR GM v4
                      Joined: Sep 2018
                      Posts: 401
                      Likes: 143
                      Quoting: Daryl
                      That's the issue. Find a good return that you need and stay firm with it. Don't let people sweet talk you down from what you know is best for your team. Trust me, it took me way to long to learn that.

                      Also, if you get an offer that you're hesitant about, for what ever reason, then go and ask other GMs that look like they could use a top line player (in this case Gallagher) and let them know he's available.

                      Some GMs consider this "bid shopping", but if it helps you get fair value and not settle on something you didn't want from the beginning, it causes fair trade value in the market for all 30+ GMs, rather than 1 GM giving away something for less than they could elsewhere.
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                      May 27, 2019 at 3:50
                      #54
                      Joined: Dec 2016
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                      Quoting: Pross
                      Also, if you get an offer that you're hesitant about, for what ever reason, then go and ask other GMs that look like they could use a top line player (in this case Gallagher) and let them know he's available.

                      Some GMs consider this "bid shopping", but if it helps you get fair value and not settle on something you didn't want from the beginning, it causes fair trade value in the market for all 30+ GMs, rather than 1 GM giving away something for less than they could elsewhere.


                      Bid shopping is a dick move, but like my man said it’ll help you see what the players value is to everybody else
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                      May 27, 2019 at 3:52
                      #55
                      TOR GM v4
                      Joined: Sep 2018
                      Posts: 401
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                      Quoting: Max
                      Bid shopping is a dick move, but like my man said it’ll help you see what the players value is to everybody else

                      I agree with Max, it's a dick move, BUT only do this if you're hesitant about fair value or if you feel the offer you have isn't what you wanted from the start.
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                      May 27, 2019 at 4:21
                      #56
                      TOR GM v4
                      Joined: Sep 2018
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                      Edited May 27, 2019 at 4:27
                      Quoting: unbjoncar
                      I've been doing that. Starting high, then negotiating from there.

                      Honestly, I've just recently acquired Rickard Rakell from ANA, and I'd dare to say that Rakell is really close to equal value for Gallagher!

                      So here's Gallagher's 2018/19 stats:
                      RW, 27 years old, 82 games played, 33 goals, 19 assists, 7 powerplay points, CF%: 59.1, 0.63 pts/gp, $3,750,000 cap hit, 2 years term remaining

                      and here's Rakell's 2018/019 stats:
                      LW/RW, 26 years old, 69 games played, 18 goals, 25 assists, 13 powerplay points, CF% 48.1, 0.62 pts/gp, $3,789,444 cap hit, 3 years term remaining

                      This was the deal TOR made to land Rakell:
                      Link to TOR/ANA deal for Rakell

                      Quoting: Zach
                      Anaheim Ducks
                      Rasmus Sandin
                      Liam Foudy
                      2019 3rd round pick (TOR)
                      UFA rights to Jake Gardiner

                      Toronto Maple Leafs
                      Rickard Rakell

                      Rasmus is TOR's top LD prospect (Grade: A to -A), Liam Foudy was 18th overall from 2018 in CBJ (Grade +B to B), a mid-tier pick in this coming draft, and UFA rights to a 2nd pair LD because ANA lost Fowler to QBC in expansion draft and Gardiner re-signed could help their team needs. I don't know if any GMs would argue this deal was good or bad for either TOR or ANA, but it was a deal agreed upon by all parties, and I had an AGM to work with to try and settle these negotiations. ANA could vouch that there were even 2 to 3 other potential offers on the table that were negotiated and re-negotiated before we settled on the one you see quoted here.

                      @unbjoncar: let me send you some quick and easy tools and resources to help you make trades closer to fair value, and prevent lopsided trades like both of those Gallagher deals with VAN from happening again.
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                      May 27, 2019 at 4:43
                      #57
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                      Something around Hoffman for Gallagher
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                      May 27, 2019 at 4:43
                      #58
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                      Quoting: Math
                      Something around Hoffman for Gallagher

                      I can i have the price for Suzuki and peopling
                      May 27, 2019 at 7:12
                      #59
                      Calgary GM v3
                      Joined: May 2017
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                      Quoting: Max
                      Bid shopping is a dick move, but like my man said it’ll help you see what the players value is to everybody else


                      It can be, and it happens more than you'd think in the game.
                      Guys will let you offer and then tell you they want to see what else is out there. Which basically puts you and your team on hold waiting to get an answer.
                      Then they come back to you and say they have a "better" offer, or they would need something else added but because everything is kept secret you have absolutely no way of knowing if they really do have a better offer, or if they just want you to keep adding to your offer to pay more than you may have to start.
                      Ideally, there's nothing wrong with it other than it becomes very frustrating because you invest time into trying to get a deal done only to be told if you don't "pay more" then you don't have a shot at getting the player(s).
                      Bottom line.....figure out what you want for your team. Don't make trades just to make trades.
                      I've been trying for 3 weeks to make a few deals, but everyone wants only my high end talent for much lesser talent so I have to back away because I see it as not being a good move for my team.

                      Don't get discouraged, you'll find the right balance soon and your team will benefit from it.
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                      May 28, 2019 at 1:21
                      #60
                      Thread Starter
                      GM MTL v4
                      Joined: Jun 2017
                      Posts: 375
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                      Get your Mete offers in. Almost time to confirm a trade.
                      May 28, 2019 at 1:32
                      #61
                      Joined: Jul 2016
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                      Quoting: unbjoncar
                      Get your Mete offers in. Almost time to confirm a trade.


                      DM me @philflyersgm88
                      May 28, 2019 at 1:57
                      #62
                      Joined: Nov 2015
                      Posts: 4,519
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                      Price on Mete from Buff
                      May 28, 2019 at 3:41
                      #63
                      Thread Starter
                      GM MTL v4
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                      Quoting: Rodzikhockey93
                      Price on Mete from Buff


                      Make me an offer.
                      May 28, 2019 at 3:58
                      #64
                      Joined: Nov 2015
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                      Quoting: unbjoncar
                      Make me an offer.


                      Alex Nylander. Something around that
                      May 28, 2019 at 4:08
                      #65
                      Thread Starter
                      GM MTL v4
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                      Quoting: Rodzikhockey93
                      Alex Nylander. Something around that


                      I would 1000% be open to that.
                      May 28, 2019 at 4:12
                      #66
                      GM - Avalanche
                      Joined: Dec 2016
                      Posts: 3,648
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                      Armia and Kotakaniemi available?

                      I have 5th oa pick
                      May 28, 2019 at 4:28
                      #67
                      Habs fan French
                      Joined: Jun 2015
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                      Interested in Carter?
                      May 28, 2019 at 6:34
                      #68
                      Blues GM v4
                      Joined: Nov 2016
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                      Any update on what we discussed for Mete?
                      May 28, 2019 at 7:05
                      #69
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                      Quoting: Math
                      I can i have the price for Suzuki and peopling


                      Bump
                      May 28, 2019 at 7:05
                      #70
                      Joined: May 2017
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                      Quoting: Math
                      Something around Hoffman for Gallagher

                      Bump
                      May 29, 2019 at 9:30
                      #71
                      Calgary GM v3
                      Joined: May 2017
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                      You really should check your twitter once in a while and at least take the time to have a discussion with other teams.
                      You'd be surprised what could happen.
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                      May 29, 2019 at 5:45
                      #72
                      Thread Starter
                      GM MTL v4
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                      Quoting: TMLSage
                      Armia and Kotakaniemi available?

                      I have 5th oa pick


                      Armia I would be open to moving, but Kotkaniemi is untouchable.
                      May 29, 2019 at 5:46
                      #73
                      GM - Avalanche
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                      Quoting: unbjoncar
                      Armia I would be open to moving, but Kotkaniemi is untouchable.


                      what is the cost?
                      May 29, 2019 at 5:51
                      #74
                      Thread Starter
                      GM MTL v4
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                      Quoting: TMLSage
                      what is the cost?


                      I would consider Kerfoot or Girard.
                      May 29, 2019 at 5:51
                      #75
                      GM - Avalanche
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                      Quoting: unbjoncar
                      I would consider Kerfoot or Girard.


                      seems expensive for Armia
                       
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