Quoting: capsin9
I’d put him at the top considering he’s up for the Selke and lady Byng. Ha he’s also 2 technical points out of top 10 or whatever. I told you he’s top 8-15 easily top 15. You can’t admit it and it’s sad. But again could care less he’s a great player. 1 point behind eichel who I bet you think is amazing
You said he was top 8 to 15, YOUR data not mine indicates he is not. I said Buffalo essentially received equal assets as when he was traded away (draft picks cancel, Thompson about equal to Zadorov, Grigorenko about equal to Berglund, at the time Compher was about equal to McGinn, in fact McGinn was more valuable) yet O'Reilly diminished his own value.
It does not matter what his rank is among top center men, I said his trade value was comparable to Hoffman, (unwanted, equal stats, equal age, equal cap hit etc.) Hoffman returned a 3-C O'Reilly much more, for some reason you somehow do not see the similarities of the two players, their performance nor the greater return for O'Reilly.
If you read one of my earlier posts I said my evaluation of O'Reilly is too harsh and he does have value, I merely maintain that the return was fair and more than I could have expected considering Hoffman's trade value.
I will finally submit, O'Reilly did not improve the Avalanche, Sabres, nor Blues (until Binnington arrived they were last place over all), I am happy to see him gone, you can go foreword and challenge me in a year, but I think Thompson will prove his value next year. Montour was the Sabres best defenseman during his stint in Buffalo, and then there is still a 2nd. His locker room issues were his own admission not gossip. I did not want a self proclaimed quitter on the team, a bucket of pucks would have made me happy just to get him out of Buffalo. You think the return should have been larger based on what other equal centers would have returned. That is fine, I compare the return to what the Sabres had to give up to get him and to the Hoffman trade and it appears to be fair to me.