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Is this better or worse OttWpg

Created by: twodollarlobster
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: May 8, 2019
Published: May 8, 2019
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Here are my thoughts:

The Jets need cheaper Defense and the Oil need skilled wingers. Let Dria drive his own line with two skilled wingers. This allows RNH or Donskoi to play up with McDavid or provide solid third line minutes.

Chariot is used to playing with Big Buff who is a offence thinking Defense. Playing him with Bear or Bouchard allows them to take some risks and work on their game while having a reliable D-partner with them. If they don't do well, they have Benning to fall back on on the right side.

Assuming the cap goes up, this still allows for the Oil to have some wiggle room for other improvements or future signings.

Let me know your thoughts!
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May 8, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.
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I like the idea of using Nurse to get a skilled winger like Ehlers. Giving up way too much to dump Lucic IMO.
May 8, 2019 at 1:04 p.m.
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I think WPG need to add a substantial piece to that trade to make it fair.
May 8, 2019 at 1:08 p.m.
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I think that's a pretty hard no still from Ottawa...

Lucic's contract is just too bad, heck Bobby Ryan's is better!

Those two picks are nice but Ottawa is already flush with 2nd and 3rd rd picks so it doesn't really help. They won't be able to sign all the players they draft so unless you're trading for better quality picks then it doesn't make sense from Ottawa's perspective.
May 8, 2019 at 1:09 p.m.
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Edmonton declines on giving up one of our top 5 prospects, got to keep these guys. We will always have the same problems if we dont! That is a crazy out of balance trade and Ottawa would take that in a second.
May 8, 2019 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Smokingun71
I like the idea of using Nurse to get a skilled winger like Ehlers. Giving up way too much to dump Lucic IMO.


I also like that idea, with Bouchard and bear in the system it makes nurse expendable IMO. Ehlers fills a huge need for speed and could be scary along side McDavid. Ehlers-McDavid-Draisitl would be scary good.

Might be an overpayment for Lucic but in 2 years do you really notice what you gave up or do you notice the cap space more? I think you'd have to overpay to get rid of the contract and I'm okay with that on EDM side.
May 8, 2019 at 1:19 p.m.
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Ehlers for Nurse is a bad trade. Nurse is trending up, Ehlers trending down. Defence is worth more than offense unless we're talking superstar offensive players for good defensive players
May 8, 2019 at 1:21 p.m.
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Edmonton declines on giving up one of our top 5 prospects, got to keep these guys. We will always have the same problems if we dont! That is a crazy out of balance trade and Ottawa would take that in a second.


Yeah, he's paying bigly to get out of Lucic's contract, then only using 25% of the freed up cap space.
May 8, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
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I also like that idea, with Bouchard and bear in the system it makes nurse expendable IMO. Ehlers fills a huge need for speed and could be scary along side McDavid. Ehlers-McDavid-Draisitl would be scary good.

Might be an overpayment for Lucic but in 2 years do you really notice what you gave up or do you notice the cap space more? I think you'd have to overpay to get rid of the contract and I'm okay with that on EDM side.


1st, Bouchard and Bear aren't ready for the NHL, let alone NHL top-4.
2nd, they play a different position than Nurse does.
3rd, the Oilers are a very good team when McDavid is on the ice, they need secondary scoring, not a winger for McDavid.
4th, if the cap space isn't being utilized to improve the team then there's absolutely no point in making an expensive cap dump trade.
May 8, 2019 at 2:07 p.m.
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I think WPG need to add a substantial piece to that trade to make it fair.


Its the other way around, the Oilers would need to add a piece.
May 8, 2019 at 2:10 p.m.
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Its the other way around, the Oilers would need to add a piece.


Nope. Nurse has way more value than Ehlers.
May 8, 2019 at 2:21 p.m.
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1st, Bouchard and Bear aren't ready for the NHL, let alone NHL top-4.
2nd, they play a different position than Nurse does.
3rd, the Oilers are a very good team when McDavid is on the ice, they need secondary scoring, not a winger for McDavid.
4th, if the cap space isn't being utilized to improve the team then there's absolutely no point in making an expensive cap dump trade.


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Yeah, he's paying bigly to get out of Lucic's contract, then only using 25% of the freed up cap space.




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1st, Bouchard and Bear aren't ready for the NHL, let alone NHL top-4.
2nd, they play a different position than Nurse does.
3rd, the Oilers are a very good team when McDavid is on the ice, they need secondary scoring, not a winger for McDavid.
4th, if the cap space isn't being utilized to improve the team then there's absolutely no point in making an expensive cap dump trade.
May 8, 2019 at 2:22 p.m.
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May 8, 2019 at 2:24 p.m.
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May 8, 2019 at 2:40 p.m.
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Nope. Nurse has way more value than Ehlers.


Then keep him or trade him elsewhere.
May 8, 2019 at 2:44 p.m.
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Then keep him or trade him elsewhere.


I would prefer to keep him, but I didn't make this mock so I can't change it.
May 8, 2019 at 2:48 p.m.
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1st, Bouchard and Bear aren't ready for the NHL, let alone NHL top-4.
2nd, they play a different position than Nurse does.
3rd, the Oilers are a very good team when McDavid is on the ice, they need secondary scoring, not a winger for McDavid.
4th, if the cap space isn't being utilized to improve the team then there's absolutely no point in making an expensive cap dump trade.


Okay I'll bite.

1. My point is that they have a surplus 2-6 defence and I disagree that Bouchard won't be ready to compete for spot next year. I've watched him a lot and he looks like the real deal. Top 4 next year? Not likely, but compete for a spot? Absolutely. By all means, if he's not ready don't rush him but a very promising player nonetheless.
2. Fair. Thought Bouchard was left but I was wrong. Still, Nurse is a valuable trade chip out of your defense and from what I see, is going to max out as a 2-3 defenseman which they have plenty of. EDM's biggest need is speed up front which Ehlers definitely gives them so if it costs Nurse I would 100% take it. Not doing it because you don't want to move a RHD to the left side is foolish, look at Carolina. Too many RHD is a good problem to have.
3. The point was, wouldn't that line be fun to watch. And look at Colorado, Boston etc. Teams stack top lines now, If it works they'll run with it and if its not then they'll split it up. This point is irrelevant and was strange mentioning, look at how many times Draisitl was paired with McDavid for a stretch then split up and then reunited again. Same thing in Boston and Colorado with that top line.
4. If the opportunity presented itself in the offseason to rid yourself of a horrendous contract for the next 4 years when your team is a nonplayoff team but up against the cap why wouldnt you for that price? Why would you rush to use that cap space if the right opportunity to spend it isn't there? Cap flexibility going forward when you've had an opportunity to reevaluate your team and find out what your actual holes are and not expected holes is a great thing to have.
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May 8, 2019 at 9:34 p.m.
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Lucic is probably not going to waive for Ottawa
 
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