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Trades with EDM VAN MIN OTT

Created by: SmugTkachuk
Initial Creation Date: May 4, 2019
Published: May 11, 2019 at 3:47 pm
Team: 2019-20 Calgary Flames
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bennett, Sam3$2,645,000
Mangiapane, Andrew2$925,000
Quine, Alan1$850,000
Rittich, David2$2,275,000
Tkachuk, Matthew7$8,375,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kinkaid, Keith2$1,900,000
Trades
CGY
  1. Kassian, Zack
EDM
  1. Czarnik, Austin
  2. 2020 5th round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Virtanen, Jake
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Brodie, TJ
CGY
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Frolík, Michael
  2. Jankowski, Mark
  3. 2019 1st round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. DeMelo, Dylan
OTT
  1. Gillies, Jon
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
  • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
VAN
CGY
MIN
NYI
CGY
CAR
2020
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2021
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,000,000$82,455,475$0$665,000$544,525
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
CGY
Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
UFA - 4
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$8,375,000
LW
RFA - 3
CGY
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
MIN
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
CGY
Dubé, Dillon
$778,333
C
RFA - 2
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
CGY
Bennett, Sam
$2,645,000
RW, C, LW
RFA - 2
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Ryan, Derek
$3,125,000
C
UFA - 2
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CGY
Giordano, Mark
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
$755,833
RD
UFA - 1
CGY
Rittich, David
$2,275,000
G
UFA - 2
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 5
CGY
Hamonic, Travis
$3,857,143
RD
UFA - 1
Kinkaid, Keith
$1,900,000
G
UFA - 1
CGY
Välimäki, Juuso
$894,166
LD
RFA - 2
OTT
DeMelo, Dylan
$900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
CGY
Quine, Alan
$850,000
C
UFA - 1
CGY
Stone, Michael
$3,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
CGY
Stone, Michael
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 11, 2019 at 5:11
#1
EthanBearForVezina
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Oilers decline
May 11, 2019 at 5:21
#2
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
Oilers decline


For what reason?
May 11, 2019 at 5:38
#3
EthanBearForVezina
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
For what reason?


Zack Kassian is an elite sniper. He’ll be on our top line next year
May 11, 2019 at 5:38
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Best In The World
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VAN decline, Canucks already have enough left shot dman. Virtanen is much more useful to the Canucks in the long term.
May 11, 2019 at 5:40
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
Zack Kassian is an elite sniper. He’ll be on our top line next year


Got it, so abstract nonsensical reasons? For sure.
May 11, 2019 at 5:41
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Quoting: brocklesnar
VAN decline, Canucks already have enough left shot dman. Virtanen is much more useful to the Canucks in the long term.


Brodie plays the right side not the left, Virtanen is the 3rd best piece moving in that deal.
May 11, 2019 at 5:43
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Brodie plays the right side not the left, Virtanen is the 3rd best piece moving in that deal.


VAN has no need for Brodie, they are shallow on right wing and need goals.
May 11, 2019 at 5:48
#8
JJ_91
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Why would we want Brodie? Canucks are rebuilding, Virtanen looks more promising with each passing year, and we're defintely not parting with a 2nd rounder. Think about the situation other teams are in before you trade with them
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May 11, 2019 at 5:49
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Quoting: brocklesnar
VAN has no need for Brodie, they are shallow on right wing and need goals.


You know that Brodie plays the powerplay, fills a need on the right side nearly doubles Virtanen's PPG production... as a d man.. Virtanen is a big body bottom six winger, that's about it.
May 11, 2019 at 5:52
#10
EthanBearForVezina
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Got it, so abstract nonsensical reasons? For sure.


Sure Jan. Kassian was actually playing on our top line for the second half of the season and was producing at a pretty solid rate. Would much rather have him than Czarnik who couldn’t even crack your guys lineup over James Neal until game 5.
May 11, 2019 at 5:54
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
You know that Brodie plays the powerplay, fills a need on the right side nearly doubles Virtanen's PPG production... as a d man.. Virtanen is a big body bottom six winger, that's about it.


Edler and Hughes will be running the powerplay, Virtanen scored 15 goals playing with Sutter and Beagle, next season he will hit 20-25 goals and provide physicality. Virtanen will be a much more useful player for the Canucks in the playoffs.
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May 11, 2019 at 5:55
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
Zack Kassian is an elite sniper. He’ll be on our top line next year


Your kidding, right... Kassian, an elite sniper. Hahaha. You're thinking of Draisaitl
May 11, 2019 at 5:57
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Quoting: Strobez
Why would we want Brodie? Canucks are rebuilding, Virtanen looks more promising with each passing year, and we're defintely not parting with a 2nd rounder. Think about the situation other teams are in before you trade with them


A 28 year old d man that can move the puck and plays 20+ minutes a night doesn't fit into a team that is shallow on the right side, not to mention that their right side of Tanev, Biega, Schenn, Stetcher, all but one of them are older than Brodie and produce much less. Virtanen is big body that will play in the bottom 6 and clog up the prospects on his next contract. A second rounder is nothing for a solidified top 4 d man that has another good 4-6 playing years. Think about the situation your own team is in before you start trying to dispute things.
May 11, 2019 at 6:03
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
Sure Jan. Kassian was actually playing on our top line for the second half of the season and was producing at a pretty solid rate. Would much rather have him than Czarnik who couldn’t even crack your guys lineup over James Neal until game 5.


Uh huh.. you could put any Edmontonian in their finest sweat pants on a top line with McDavid and they will produce more than just the usual bud lite farts and second hand smoke. So you wouldn't slot Czarnik, who did absolutely produce every time he was in over Reider, Cave, Rattie, Khaira, Brodziak, Gagner. You're lying to yourself, he brings speed that beside McDavid would be elite and would triple what Kassian produces with McDavid.
May 11, 2019 at 6:12
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EthanBearForVezina
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Edited May 11, 2019 at 6:22
Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Uh huh.. you could put any Edmontonian in their finest sweat pants on a top line with McDavid and they will produce more than just the usual bud lite farts and second hand smoke. So you wouldn't slot Czarnik, who did absolutely produce every time he was in over Reider, Cave, Rattie, Khaira, Brodziak, Gagner. You're lying to yourself, he brings speed that beside McDavid would be elite and would triple what Kassian produces with McDavid.


Tell me why he couldn’t crack your guys lineup over JAMES NEAL LOL. I think you’re overhyping him bud.
May 11, 2019 at 8:48
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
Tell me why he couldn’t crack your guys lineup over JAMES NEAL LOL. I think you’re overhyping him bud.


That’s not over hyped, that’s how bad the Oilers line up is. You know exactly why he didn’t draw in over Neal, it’s a contract thing like every other team in the league, why does Lucic play over anyone in the AHL? Same situation.
You didn’t even have a rebuttal to the fact that Czarnik is better than every player there that I listed.. it says more about the Flames depth that he didn’t draw in than his talent.
May 11, 2019 at 8:58
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
That’s not over hyped, that’s how bad the Oilers line up is. You know exactly why he didn’t draw in over Neal, it’s a contract thing like every other team in the league, why does Lucic play over anyone in the AHL? Same situation.
You didn’t even have a rebuttal to the fact that Czarnik is better than every player there that I listed.. it says more about the Flames depth that he didn’t draw in than his talent.


You missed the point bud. I’d love to have czarnik but at the cost of Kassian? No thanks.
May 11, 2019 at 9:28
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
You missed the point bud. I’d love to have czarnik but at the cost of Kassian? No thanks.


Kassian has a lower points per game than Czarnik, Czarnik has a skill set that the Oilers can’t seem to find anywhere and Kassian is a lesser version goon than Lucic and scores the same as Czarnik. If you put Czarnik on a line with McDavid his production sky rockets. It’s a small price to pay to find another top 6 forward. I even threw in a pick here as a courtesy because of division rivals.
May 11, 2019 at 10:03
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EthanBearForVezina
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Kassian has a lower points per game than Czarnik, Czarnik has a skill set that the Oilers can’t seem to find anywhere and Kassian is a lesser version goon than Lucic and scores the same as Czarnik. If you put Czarnik on a line with McDavid his production sky rockets. It’s a small price to pay to find another top 6 forward. I even threw in a pick here as a courtesy because of division rivals.


????
May 12, 2019 at 2:23
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
????


Good answer. Use your head before you come back here son
May 12, 2019 at 5:18
#21
EthanBearForVezina
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Good answer. Use your head before you come back here son


Lol, you’re argument makes no sense bud, give up.
May 13, 2019 at 12:09
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
Lol, you’re argument makes no sense bud, give up.


Made enough sense that you didn't have a rebuttal other than emojis like a child....
May 13, 2019 at 1:59
#23
EthanBearForVezina
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Made enough sense that you didn't have a rebuttal other than emojis like a child....


Sure Jan.
May 13, 2019 at 9:07
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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina
Sure Jan.


Point made sweet heart. So long goof ball
 
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