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Created by: Shylo_Moxii
Team: 2018-19 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2019
Published: May 13, 2019
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Vladimir Tarasenko has been a frustrating player this postseason. Doesn't want to shoot at all, so I am wondering what people will offer for him....
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28$79,500,000$73,107,654$150,988$235,000$6,392,346
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C
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LW
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C, LW
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RW, LW
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$900,000$900,000
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LW
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C, RW
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$700,000$700,000
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$875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$50,000$50K)
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$650,000$650,000
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
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G
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
LD
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May 13, 2019 at 9:31 a.m.
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A decent top 6- Elite Forward, also draft picks

I was thinking like Tarensenko for someone like Keller or Dvorak
May 13, 2019 at 9:34 a.m.
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Yesterday you weren't willing to take Marner over Tarasenko, now you want to trade him for lesser quality?
May 13, 2019 at 9:40 a.m.
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Yesterday you weren't willing to take Marner over Tarasenko, now you want to trade him for lesser quality?


I wouldn't want to take on 10 Million cap for a guy who is less productive goal scoring than Tarasenko at 7.5M, but this is just a little convo I am starting because I am bored.
May 13, 2019 at 9:49 a.m.
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Tarasenko should land a solid package or a one for one swap around the same age if Blues want a player at a different position, LHD or Center.

Examples: 1st, Trochek and a high end prospect
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May 13, 2019 at 9:50 a.m.
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I wouldn't want to take on 10 Million cap for a guy who is less productive goal scoring than Tarasenko at 7.5M, but this is just a little convo I am starting because I am bored.


Unfortunately, the modern NHL is going to go back to where it was prior to the 2012 lockout. Two buyouts per team and so on.

However, if you can get Marner for 9 to 10 I'd consider it since he's great at generating scoring opportunities and can set up other guys.
May 13, 2019 at 9:50 a.m.
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Kreider (w. extension), Vesey, one of Hajek/Lindgren and WPGs 1st.

Kreider brings speed element and physicality (good for 25-30 goals and 50+ points), Vesey (solid depth forward for 3rd line, good for 15-20 goals and 30-40 points, was a lot better defensively last year too), Hajek/Lindgren (a LHD prospect that's almost NHL ready, probably max out as a second pairing defenseman, both can skate and can make a good outlet pass), #20 overall (R. Thomas was a former 20th overall, chytil was 21, Vesalainen was 24 so you can get a potential top 6 forward here as well).
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May 13, 2019 at 9:51 a.m.
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Tarasenko should land a solid package or a one for one swap around the same age if Blues want a player at a different position, LHD or Center.

Examples: 1st, Trochek and a high end prospect


Vova is good, not worth that package though.
May 13, 2019 at 9:51 a.m.
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Unfortunately, the modern NHL is going to go back to where it was prior to the 2012 lockout. Two buyouts per team and so on.

However, if you can get Marner for 9 to 10 I'd consider it since he's great at generating scoring opportunities and can set up other guys.


Blues want a Goal Productive player. Marner is a setup guy, and has Tavares on his side. Too risky to bring him in at 10 Million to play terribly.
May 13, 2019 at 9:52 a.m.
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Vova is good, not worth that package though.


70 Point player isn't worth that? His Advanced Stats are better than Marner even for this season.
May 13, 2019 at 9:57 a.m.
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Blues want a Goal Productive player. Marner is a setup guy, and has Tavares on his side. Too risky to bring him in at 10 Million to play terribly.


Marner made Tavares a much better player than the inverse. Having Tavares helps obviously, but Marner has been getting better and will be a 30g/80 point guy. Taranseko may never reach 35/70 again.
May 13, 2019 at 10:04 a.m.
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70 Point player isn't worth that? His Advanced Stats are better than Marner even for this season.


No, one 30 goal, 70 point players is not worth a 30 goal, 70 point, very good all around center, a 1st rounder, and a high end prospect.
May 13, 2019 at 10:05 a.m.
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No, one 30 goal, 70 point players is not worth a 30 goal, 70 point, very good all around center, a 1st rounder, and a high end prospect.


But you are missing the point about Tarasenko being a great puck driver. Trocheck is not a Puck driver. He might be good at scoring, but he can't drive the puck like Tarasenko can.
May 13, 2019 at 10:09 a.m.
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But you are missing the point about Tarasenko being a great puck driver. Trocheck is not a Puck driver. He might be good at scoring, but he can't drive the puck like Tarasenko can.


overlooking the fact that trochek has hit 30 goals and 70 points only once in his career, and suffered a pretty hefty injury this year.. Tarasenko is the clear better player, but Trocheck plays a more important position at center. In addition to that, he's one of the better faceoff men in the NHL and is 2 years younger on a lesser contract price. With that in mind, Tarasenko isn't worth a good prospect and a 1st more. One or the other in my opinion.
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May 13, 2019 at 10:17 a.m.
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But you are missing the point about Tarasenko being a great puck driver. Trocheck is not a Puck driver. He might be good at scoring, but he can't drive the puck like Tarasenko can.


If he's such a great puck driver then why trade him when you're in a win-now mode? Makes no sense.
May 13, 2019 at 10:18 a.m.
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If he's such a great puck driver then why trade him when you're in a win-now mode? Makes no sense.


We are more heading into retooling mode.
May 13, 2019 at 10:18 a.m.
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If he's such a great puck driver then why trade him when you're in a win-now mode? Makes no sense.


We are more heading into retooling mode.
May 13, 2019 at 10:29 a.m.
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We are more heading into retooling mode.


If you're going to retool, start with Schenn or someone more replaceable and is set to be a UFA.
May 13, 2019 at 11:53 a.m.
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Tarasenko fabbri and allen for murray bjorkstrand 2020 1st and 2021 3rd
May 13, 2019 at 11:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Tarasenko fabbri and allen for murray bjorkstrand 2020 1st and 2021 3rd


lol.......stop trolling Ragsfan
May 13, 2019 at 12:01 p.m.
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lol.......stop trolling Ragsfan


Thats actually the deal, would anderson change it?
May 13, 2019 at 12:02 p.m.
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The team has been the best since January and currently in the western conference finals, why would you be in retooling mode with tarasenk orielly petro schenn schwarts paryako, plus with bennington emerging how are you not in win now mode. You need to free up some space and land one of the top free agents this season, duchene or panarin would give you the goals you need.
May 13, 2019 at 12:04 p.m.
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Thats actually the deal, would anderson change it?


maybe. Tarasenko has 33 Goals with a great 60.2 OZs% and he has a 59 something in CF with a 14.2 CF Rel. And has solid puck driving numbers, so I don't know if that would change a thing or not. he has certainly had a rough playoffs.
May 13, 2019 at 12:05 p.m.
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The team has been the best since January and currently in the western conference finals, why would you be in retooling mode with tarasenk orielly petro schenn schwarts paryako, plus with bennington emerging how are you not in win now mode. You need to free up some space and land one of the top free agents this season, duchene or panarin would give you the goals you need.


Schenn has a year left on his contract, pietrangelo as well has a year left on his contract. Retooling might be a smart idea when trying to get younger players.
May 13, 2019 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Tarasenko fabbri and allen for murray bjorkstrand 2020 1st and 2021 3rd


He wouldn't do a Tarasenko for Marner deal, so this deal doesnt meet that expectation.
May 13, 2019 at 12:27 p.m.
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He wouldn't do a Tarasenko for Marner deal, so this deal doesnt meet that expectation.


That's not for skill reasons that's for contract reasons. 10M for a under 30 Goal Scorer imo is not a needed piece for the Blues.
 
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