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Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: May 21, 2019
Published: May 22, 2019
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Really the only new moves are the Ghost Bear 3 way. Facilitated because Vigneault loves Kreider, probably will not like Ghost Bear given his history with similar style defensemen and Vegas needs D. Philly does not need D so the direct Ghost Bear to Vegas trade doesn't work as well.

Other new deals are the Eriksson deal and the Lemieux flip. If you think the Eriksson deal is off by a round or 2 lemme know.
And the Lemieux/Jones swap is a change of scenery type thing. Lemieux is frankly a more disciplined Jones who's had much more success scoring at the NHL level. His style of play works nicely in Anaheim. Jones is blocked by fellow kids like Terry, Sprong, Steel and Comtois from sticking in the lineup. I think a change of scenery helps both guys.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$4,830,000
7$4,000,000
6$4,350,000
6$4,750,000
2$3,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Kakko, Kaapo
3$925,000
Trades
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TOR
  1. Howden, Brett
  2. Lindgren, Ryan
  3. 2019 5th round pick (NYR)
2.
MIN
  1. Day, Sean
  2. Strome, Ryan
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (TBL)
3.
NYR
  1. Toffoli, Tyler
  2. 2019 4th round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
Toffoli signs 4 yr 5 mil extension
LAK
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (DAL)
4.
NYR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2020 6th round pick (EDM)
5.
NYR
  1. Eriksson, Loui ($2,500,000 retained)
6.
FLA
  1. Smith, Brendan ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. 2019 4th round pick (CBJ)
7.
NYR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (DAL)
8.
NYR
  1. Butcher, Will [RFA Rights]
NJD
  1. Gropp, Ryan
  2. Hájek, Libor
  3. 2019 1st round pick (WPG)
9.
NYR
  1. 2019 5th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (NYR)
10.
PHI
  1. Fast, Jesper
  2. Kreider, Chris
Additional Details:
Kreider signs 5 yr extension with Philly
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12.
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  1. Lehkonen, Artturi [RFA Rights]
MTL
  1. Pionk, Neal [RFA Rights]
13.
NYR
  1. Jones, Max
  2. 2020 4th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Lemieux, Brendan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2019 6th round pick (NYR)
14.
NYR
  1. 2019 7th round pick (BUF)
  2. 2020 5th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Claesson, Fredrik [RFA Rights]
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23$83,000,000$72,560,276$0$5,882,500$10,439,724
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,830,000$4,830,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
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RFA - 2
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000$925,000
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RW, C
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 3
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
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May 22, 2019 at 10:11 a.m.
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What about Kapanen and Timashov for Howden and Lemieux?
May 22, 2019 at 10:14 a.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
What about Kapanen and Timashov for Howden and Lemieux?


I like Lindgren, solid d prospect. Lemieux would be good too
May 22, 2019 at 10:15 a.m.
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I like Lindgren, solid d prospect. Lemieux would be good too


But we are deep at D prospects imo. Thats why Lemieux who can be replacement for Hymans injury. I like Lemieux.
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May 22, 2019 at 10:16 a.m.
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I have hard time envisioning LA deal happening without a solid prospect attached.

I doubt Smith trade happens, I think they'll have to buy him out.

And if your Vegas I don't think they could do that because of cap crunch.
May 22, 2019 at 10:28 a.m.
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But we are deep at D prospects imo. Thats why Lemieux who can be replacement for Hymans injury. I like Lemieux.


sure that's fine. I figured you'd prefer Lindgren as well because it's 2 years longer team control...
May 22, 2019 at 10:30 a.m.
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sure that's fine. I figured you'd prefer Lindgren as well because it's 2 years longer team control...


I know. But I would prefer Lemieux tbh. We have a lot of LDs in the system thats why I think it would not be as good.
May 22, 2019 at 10:30 a.m.
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I think MTL declines they have lots of RHD
May 22, 2019 at 10:40 a.m.
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I have hard time envisioning LA deal happening without a solid prospect attached.

I doubt Smith trade happens, I think they'll have to buy him out.

And if your Vegas I don't think they could do that because of cap crunch.


1) Performance wise Namestnikov and Toffoli are almost identical the past 2 years. (Toffoli putting up 34 pts and 47 the past 2 years, Namestnikov putting up 31 and 48). Ages are the same, Defensively comparable. The contracts are similar. The trade can almost be done straight up. But I let Los Angeles move up 2 whole rounds in the draft to the 2nd round. I think that's sufficient and that's why they'd do the deal.

2) Care for a more elaborate criticism of why Tallon and Q wouldn't take a midwest Dman with great shot suppression numbers onto a bad shot suppression team while also being able to clear out a 4th liner to make room for their top RW prospect?

3) On Vegas' end, the only cap that changes is they go up 800k switching from Miller to Ghost Bear. Basically, the notion goes you make the D worse if you just trade Miller for picks to stay under the cap. And considering how difficult it is to find a top line dman at under 5mil cap hit, I'm not sure Vegas could get that done without dismantling the NHL roster. This move allows them to improve the D without worsening the cap situation. They can easily flip Eakin/Haula/Reeves for picks to fund Karlsson/Gusev next year and still have their core. I don't think there's a better way around it.
May 22, 2019 at 10:45 a.m.
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I think MTL declines they have lots of RHD


More than wingers? lol

MTL has 2 legitimate RHD. Folin/Juulsen/Fleury have not shown to be NHL caliber just yet.

Pionk would've been 3rd amongst your dmen in scoring last year.

I think Lehkonen was 9th among forwards in scoring and that's with Armia and Shaw missing significant time....
May 22, 2019 at 10:45 a.m.
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sure that's fine. I figured you'd prefer Lindgren as well because it's 2 years longer team control...


I'd see them going for Lemieux before Lindgren as well. Leafs have a hump year cap wise, after this year things loosen up a lot (Still not easy to fit everyone, but most competitive teams don't have room)
May 22, 2019 at 10:47 a.m.
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I'd see them going for Lemieux before Lindgren as well. Leafs have a hump year cap wise, after this year things loosen up a lot (Still not easy to fit everyone, but most competitive teams don't have room)


That's actually fine. I can trade Lemieux in the Toronto deal and trade Lindgren to Anaheim and I think they still accept...Maybe drop the picks.
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May 22, 2019 at 10:51 a.m.
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Hmm... I guess my only concern about the Wild deal is Sean Day's upside. If he's a 2nd pairing player then I like it but if not then it seems like we're just trading Zucker for a couple depth players and a gamble of a pick.
May 22, 2019 at 10:58 a.m.
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Hmm... I guess my only concern about the Wild deal is Sean Day's upside. If he's a 2nd pairing player then I like it but if not then it seems like we're just trading Zucker for a couple depth players and a gamble of a pick.


Day has a ridiculous amount of upside. He's one of those high ceiling, low floor type players. Needs some time to develop his game but he's shown a lot of progress and I'd put decent odds on him to make it. He'll basically be a top 4 guy or not make the league. He also needs to get out of NY because their AHL development is a tire fire.

The only reason I feel comfortable trading him is because we have Miller and Lindqvist in the system.
May 22, 2019 at 11:02 a.m.
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Day has a ridiculous amount of upside. He's one of those high ceiling, low floor type players. Needs some time to develop his game but he's shown a lot of progress and I'd put decent odds on him to make it. He'll basically be a top 4 guy or not make the league. He also needs to get out of NY because their AHL development is a tire fire.

The only reason I feel comfortable trading him is because we have Miller and Lindqvist in the system.


In that case it's not a bad offer. The 2nd round pick could be a decent player, too.
May 22, 2019 at 11:34 a.m.
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1) Performance wise Namestnikov and Toffoli are almost identical the past 2 years. (Toffoli putting up 34 pts and 47 the past 2 years, Namestnikov putting up 31 and 48). Ages are the same, Defensively comparable. The contracts are similar. The trade can almost be done straight up. But I let Los Angeles move up 2 whole rounds in the draft to the 2nd round. I think that's sufficient and that's why they'd do the deal.

2) Care for a more elaborate criticism of why Tallon and Q wouldn't take a midwest Dman with great shot suppression numbers onto a bad shot suppression team while also being able to clear out a 4th liner to make room for their top RW prospect?

3) On Vegas' end, the only cap that changes is they go up 800k switching from Miller to Ghost Bear. Basically, the notion goes you make the D worse if you just trade Miller for picks to stay under the cap. And considering how difficult it is to find a top line dman at under 5mil cap hit, I'm not sure Vegas could get that done without dismantling the NHL roster. This move allows them to improve the D without worsening the cap situation. They can easily flip Eakin/Haula/Reeves for picks to fund Karlsson/Gusev next year and still have their core. I don't think there's a better way around it.


Namestnikov's best point production was alongside Kucherov and Stamkos so I think that skews it a bit. Same could be said about Toffoli playing alongside Carter or Kopitar I suppose but Toffoli has shown better production in later seasons. I think comparing it to last season is a poor example cause LA was terrible as a whole and Toffoli put up the lowest point totals in a full season since his rookie year whereas Namestnikov's points last year is what to expect from him regularly I think. To be fair, I did think Toffoli had better numbers in the past until I looked into it after your reply but I still think he is a better player and IMO I don't think LA would move him just to move up two rounds. In saying that, solely based on last year, yes, a 1 for 1 is plausible.

Smith was in the minors last season which speaks to his level of play and even with the retained salary, I think there would be better and cheaper options for Florida on the open market to fill out their bottom pairing. 2.85 for your bottom pairing guy who hasn't played more than 63 games in the last 4 seasons does not seem like a cost effective move to me.

After further thought, the Ghost trade would be solid. I did not realize he only had a 4.5 Mil contract so that is something that would be manageable.
May 22, 2019 at 12:07 p.m.
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More than wingers? lol

MTL has 2 legitimate RHD. Folin/Juulsen/Fleury have not shown to be NHL caliber just yet.

Pionk would've been 3rd amongst your dmen in scoring last year.

I think Lehkonen was 9th among forwards in scoring and that's with Armia and Shaw missing significant time....


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More than wingers? lol

MTL has 2 legitimate RHD. Folin/Juulsen/Fleury have not shown to be NHL caliber just yet.

Pionk would've been 3rd amongst your dmen in scoring last year.

I think Lehkonen was 9th among forwards in scoring and that's with Armia and Shaw missing significant time....


Juulsen will play the full season next year at 3RD. Brook will be ready in '20-21 and we need an LHD more than an RHD. I'd rather trade Leky for a LHD. (I.e Mattaa for Leky and a 4th) Pionk would be useless for us after next season
May 22, 2019 at 12:12 p.m.
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Namestnikov's best point production was alongside Kucherov and Stamkos so I think that skews it a bit. Same could be said about Toffoli playing alongside Carter or Kopitar I suppose but Toffoli has shown better production in later seasons. I think comparing it to last season is a poor example cause LA was terrible as a whole and Toffoli put up the lowest point totals in a full season since his rookie year whereas Namestnikov's points last year is what to expect from him regularly I think. To be fair, I did think Toffoli had better numbers in the past until I looked into it after your reply but I still think he is a better player and IMO I don't think LA would move him just to move up two rounds. In saying that, solely based on last year, yes, a 1 for 1 is plausible.

Smith was in the minors last season which speaks to his level of play and even with the retained salary, I think there would be better and cheaper options for Florida on the open market to fill out their bottom pairing. 2.85 for your bottom pairing guy who hasn't played more than 63 games in the last 4 seasons does not seem like a cost effective move to me.

After further thought, the Ghost trade would be solid. I did not realize he only had a 4.5 Mil contract so that is something that would be manageable.


It's weird to give Toffoli the benefit of the doubt but you don't give Namestnikov. Rangers had a pitiful offense. The dman Namestnikov spent the most time on the ice with was Marc Staal. Toffoli had Doughty. Namestnikov had Strome and Fast. Toffoli had Kempe and Carter. It's weird to make those sort of stances on one side but not the other. Again we're talking about a rebuilding team in Los Angeles trying to position themselves better for the future. They can flip Namestnikov anyway for a 2nd.

Smith being in the minors the season before last speaks to the coaches incompetency more than anything. As much as making Pionk and Staal the top pair for most of the season does. Florida has an analytics driven front office. I think they like the look of this when they realize they were 4th to last in goals given up last year. Screen-Shot-2019-05-22-at-12-09-58-PM

(if you can't understand the graph, Smith is the 3rd best dman in the league at preventing zone entries...)
May 22, 2019 at 12:21 p.m.
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Juulsen will play the full season next year at 3RD. Brook will be ready in '20-21 and we need an LHD more than an RHD. I'd rather trade Leky for a LHD. (I.e Mattaa for Leky and a 4th) Pionk would be useless for us after next season


That's just weird though. Juulsen is legitimately very bad at hockey. By the time Brook is really ready, you guys are either fully in the playoffs or dealing Petry at the deadline. Either way, you're going to need Neal. Kulak and Reilly and frankly Ouellet should be back. I don't see the room on your Left side. Especially with Romonov in the future.
May 22, 2019 at 1:00 p.m.
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It's weird to give Toffoli the benefit of the doubt but you don't give Namestnikov. Rangers had a pitiful offense. The dman Namestnikov spent the most time on the ice with was Marc Staal. Toffoli had Doughty. Namestnikov had Strome and Fast. Toffoli had Kempe and Carter. It's weird to make those sort of stances on one side but not the other. Again we're talking about a rebuilding team in Los Angeles trying to position themselves better for the future. They can flip Namestnikov anyway for a 2nd.

Smith being in the minors the season before last speaks to the coaches incompetency more than anything. As much as making Pionk and Staal the top pair for most of the season does. Florida has an analytics driven front office. I think they like the look of this when they realize they were 4th to last in goals given up last year. Screen-Shot-2019-05-22-at-12-09-58-PM

(if you can't understand the graph, Smith is the 3rd best dman in the league at preventing zone entries...)


I think Toffoli is the better player and I don't see it happening personally, you see it differently and that's fair. If I'm LA, I'd rather just trade Toffoli for the package of picks/prospects rather than downgrade to Namestnikov and then try and flip him.

Those stats look fine and dandy but it doesn't change the fact that 2.85 Mil for a 3rd pairing guy is a lot, especially for a team with plans at taking runs at two of the top free agents this summer. Something that should be considered when evaluating that chart is, are his numbers improved because he played fewer games and limited minutes? Cause if you play him more to make him a top four guy and worth the money, maybe those numbers go down. If they stay roughly the same, you got a good cost effective player, if not, then it's trouble.

Gotta link for that chart? Would love to take a deeper look into it!
May 22, 2019 at 2:54 p.m.
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That's just weird though. Juulsen is legitimately very bad at hockey. By the time Brook is really ready, you guys are either fully in the playoffs or dealing Petry at the deadline. Either way, you're going to need Neal. Kulak and Reilly and frankly Ouellet should be back. I don't see the room on your Left side. Especially with Romonov in the future.


He's not terrible at hockey he's only 22 and was up and down this year. He just needs time which trading for Neal won't give him any time and if he doesn't work out Brook can be a 3RD and as you said we have lots of LD so he wouldn't move over. On the point of us having lots of LD, only Mete is a true top 4 D-man and you need to give Romanov 2-3 years. So you trade for a top 4 LD who has 2 years left on their contract
May 22, 2019 at 6:14 p.m.
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I think Toffoli is the better player and I don't see it happening personally, you see it differently and that's fair. If I'm LA, I'd rather just trade Toffoli for the package of picks/prospects rather than downgrade to Namestnikov and then try and flip him.

Those stats look fine and dandy but it doesn't change the fact that 2.85 Mil for a 3rd pairing guy is a lot, especially for a team with plans at taking runs at two of the top free agents this summer. Something that should be considered when evaluating that chart is, are his numbers improved because he played fewer games and limited minutes? Cause if you play him more to make him a top four guy and worth the money, maybe those numbers go down. If they stay roughly the same, you got a good cost effective player, if not, then it's trouble.

Gotta link for that chart? Would love to take a deeper look into it!


Several charts for ya: https://public.tableau.com/profile/sean.tierney#!/vizhome/VizzesforShutdownlinestrackeddata/PrimaryShotContributions
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May 22, 2019 at 6:18 p.m.
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He's not terrible at hockey he's only 22 and was up and down this year. He just needs time which trading for Neal won't give him any time and if he doesn't work out Brook can be a 3RD and as you said we have lots of LD so he wouldn't move over. On the point of us having lots of LD, only Mete is a true top 4 D-man and you need to give Romanov 2-3 years. So you trade for a top 4 LD who has 2 years left on their contract


I think Kulak is actually a nice 2nd pair guy...Had a much better year than Mete.

But more concerning is your player evaluation of Juulsen having an up and down year. I'm failing to see the up of being worst on the team in Expected goal and Scoring chance differential. He is young...I guess he has that going for him. Another season of this and where's your optimism?
May 22, 2019 at 9:19 p.m.
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I think Kulak is actually a nice 2nd pair guy...Had a much better year than Mete.

But more concerning is your player evaluation of Juulsen having an up and down year. I'm failing to see the up of being worst on the team in Expected goal and Scoring chance differential. He is young...I guess he has that going for him. Another season of this and where's your optimism?


My optimism is that he's never had a chance to get into a good flow of playing since he's played under 25 games in each of his two seasons. I want to see him have a full season in the NHL before I actually judge him too much. I'm not going to just give up the ghost on a guy who's played 44 games in his career and is still only 22. Plus Brook will be ready at the latest in my mind in 20-21 as he was a +7 at the world juniors and had 2 points in 5 games. There he also showed that he is really good defensively and that's why it wouldn't surprise me to see him playing on the 3rd pairing in MTL next year at about the middle of the season if Juulsen doesn't play well. Does this finally show you that we don't need or want Neal Pionk?
May 22, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.
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My optimism is that he's never had a chance to get into a good flow of playing since he's played under 25 games in each of his two seasons. I want to see him have a full season in the NHL before I actually judge him too much. I'm not going to just give up the ghost on a guy who's played 44 games in his career and is still only 22. Plus Brook will be ready at the latest in my mind in 20-21 as he was a +7 at the world juniors and had 2 points in 5 games. There he also showed that he is really good defensively and that's why it wouldn't surprise me to see him playing on the 3rd pairing in MTL next year at about the middle of the season if Juulsen doesn't play well. Does this finally show you that we don't need or want Neal Pionk?


It definitely does show me that you personally don't want Neal Pionk. Have you made a convincing case for not objectively needing Neal Pionk? Not quite. And that's OK!

Brook is good though. Just a matter of if you want to compete next year or not. If you want to punt next year to a rebuild I don't think you need him at all.
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Awesome thanks! Very interesting data there.
 
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