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Ehlers Brodie FAIR TRADE

Created by: Poehling
Initial Creation Date: May 22, 2019
Published: May 22 at 10:02 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
I think this team is a playoffs team
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Armia, Joel2$2,500,000
Kulak, Brett2$1,500,000
Lehkonen, Artturi3$1,850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Benn, Jordie1$2,250,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Brodie, TJ
Additional Details:
Brodie sign an extention
CGY
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
WPG
  1. Shaw, Andrew ($900,000 retained)
  2. 2019 1st round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Andrew Shaw: $900,000 (23.08%)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
MTL
CBJ
MTL
MTL
ARI
CHI
EDM
MTL
WPG
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
WPG
MTL
MTL
MTL
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$81,255,876$0$2,500,000$1,744,124
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$1,850,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CGY
Brodie, TJ
$4,650,400
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Benn, Jordie
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 22 at 10:03
#1
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Calgary accepts
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May 22 at 10:27
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asdod
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Brodie is not enough of an upgrade (or at all) on Juulsen to be worth a 1st. Also, despite being a left shot, he plays on the right.
May 22 at 10:27
#3
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Probably not the best strategy for a team in a rebuild. Just be patient and let the young guys develop. No need to overpay for a wild card spot and first round exit
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May 22 at 10:33
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Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
Probably not the best strategy for a team in a rebuild. Just be patient and let the young guys develop. No need to overpay for a wild card spot and first round exit


We lose 2 1st round pick + Juulsen but already have Cale Fleury & Josh Brook RHD. So not a big deal losing Juulsen. Poehling Suzuki Ylonen Romanov are all coming. Brodie Mete Romanov you got your 3 LHD. We acquiere a top 2 LHD + a top 6 RW.
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May 22 at 10:34
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Quoting: asdod
Brodie is not enough of an upgrade (or at all) on Juulsen to be worth a 1st. Also, despite being a left shot, he plays on the right.


He's playing on the Right side cause Giordanno & Hanifin are LHD
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May 22 at 10:37
#6
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Quoting: Poehling
We lose 2 1st round pick + Juulsen but already have Cale Fleury & Josh Brook RHD. So not a big deal losing Juulsen. Poehling Suzuki Ylonen Romanov are all coming. Brodie Mete Romanov you got your 3 LHD. We acquiere a top 2 LHD + a top 6 RW.


Never trade first round picks just to make the playoffs. Trade first round picks to become a contender. These moves don't make MTL a contender
May 22 at 10:45
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Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
Never trade first round picks just to make the playoffs. Trade first round picks to become a contender. These moves don't make MTL a contender


MTL will be contenders in 3-4 years. Brodie will turn 29 yo this summer, Ehlers is only 23 yo. MTL need to make the playoffs the couple next seasons.
May 22 at 10:51
#8
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Quoting: Poehling
MTL will be contenders in 3-4 years. Brodie will turn 29 yo this summer, Ehlers is only 23 yo. MTL need to make the playoffs the couple next seasons.


The ehlers trade I think is unnecessary but I can ignore. Why get brodie when he's gonna cost a 1st and he's gonna be past his prime really soon?
May 22 at 10:53
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Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
The ehlers trade I think is unnecessary but I can ignore. Why get brodie when he's gonna cost a 1st and he's gonna be past his prime really soon?


Petry enter is prime at 30-31, Blake Wheeler too ( exeption ), most D are in their prime 27 - 32 yo.
May 22 at 10:57
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Quoting: Poehling
Petry enter is prime at 30-31, Blake Wheeler too ( exeption ), most D are in their prime 27 - 32 yo.


You said it yourself that MTL wouldn't be contenders for 3-4 years. Aka past brodies prime by your definition
May 22 at 10:57
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Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
You said it yourself that MTL wouldn't be contenders for 3-4 years. Aka past brodies prime by your definition


Yes but if we're not making the playoffs next 2 seasons Marc Bergevin will lose is job. You think one year your not in the playoffs and next one you're contenders ?
May 22 at 11:03
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Quoting: Poehling
Yes but if we're not making the playoffs next 2 seasons Marc Bergevin will lose is job. You think one year your not in the playoffs and next one you're contenders ?


I don't think that's the case. Bergevin won over a lot of his doubters with how his trades turned out this past season. As long as they're making progress and he's not making any terrible trades (like giving up a 1st for brodie) I think bergevin should have some time. Let the kids develop. The rebuild just started and is way ahead of schedule
May 23 at 12:20
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No chance Winnipeg accepts

Calgary one is fair
May 23 at 12:20
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Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
I don't think that's the case. Bergevin won over a lot of his doubters with how his trades turned out this past season. As long as they're making progress and he's not making any terrible trades (like giving up a 1st for brodie) I think bergevin should have some time. Let the kids develop. The rebuild just started and is way ahead of schedule


I totally agree. But people thinks because we missed the playoffs by 4 points, we need to make them next season. This site is just for fun, I know he wont do that. Poehling Suzuki will play in Laval next season and we will be back with the same team next year.
May 23 at 12:22
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
No chance Winnipeg accepts

Calgary one is fair


15th OA + Shaw retained is fair. Shaw got 47 points in 63 games Ehlers 37 in 62 games. Shaw bring some grit, and can replace Ehlers. And they get the 15th OA pick, it's fair enough
May 23 at 12:26
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Quoting: Poehling
15th OA + Shaw retained is fair. Shaw got 47 points in 63 games Ehlers 37 in 62 games. Shaw bring some grit, and can replace Ehlers. And they get the 15th OA pick, it's fair enough


No, it’s not
Ehlers is young & getting better
Shaw had a decent year with 19goals, but had ONLY 10 the year before and ONLY 12 the year before that
Plus he’s 4 years older & ALWAYS HURT

They can acquire grit (not that they really need it) without having to give up Ehlers

15OA is nice, but keeping Ehlers is much nicer
May 23 at 12:28
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
No, it’s not
Ehlers is young & getting better
Shaw had a decent year with 19goals, but had ONLY 10 the year before and ONLY 12 the year before that
Plus he’s 4 years older & ALWAYS HURT

They can acquire grit (not that they really need it) without having to give up Ehlers

15OA is nice, but keeping Ehlers is much nicer


getting better ? how passed from 60 points to 37 is getting better
May 23 at 1:16
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Quoting: Poehling
getting better ? how passed from 60 points to 37 is getting better


Well... he was hurt & played 20 less games than last year
Even if u wanna say he had a “down” season, it’s his only 1
While Shaw had 4 declining seasons in a row before this one, and has ONE season of 20 or more goals
Ehlers has done that ALL 3years since his rookie season & has potential to get 30

Thinking they’d even consider this deal is bonkers
May 23 at 1:27
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Well... he was hurt & played 20 less games than last year
Even if u wanna say he had a “down” season, it’s his only 1
While Shaw had 4 declining seasons in a row before this one, and has ONE season of 20 or more goals
Ehlers has done that ALL 3years since his rookie season & has potential to get 30

Thinking they’d even consider this deal is bonkers


You're talking like a 1 for 1 trade lol
May 23 at 1:30
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Edited May 23 at 1:37
Quoting: Poehling
You're talking like a 1 for 1 trade lol


1) why would they even trade Ehlers?
2) the 15th pick is nice, but u don’t trade a 23yr old who has 3 seasons in a row of 20+ goals for a pick that u HOPE could possibly develop into the guy u just gave away
3) Shaw is an average player. They can get a guy like that without having to give up a really good young player in Ehlers

This trade is brutal dude
May 23 at 1:58
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
1) why would they even trade Ehlers?
2) the 15th pick is nice, but u don’t trade a 23yr old who has 3 seasons in a row of 20+ goals for a pick that u HOPE could possibly develop into the guy u just gave away
3) Shaw is an average player. They can get a guy like that without having to give up a really good young player in Ehlers

This trade is brutal dude


1) this site is to do trade for fun
2) caphit
3) This trade is fair IMO
4) Nothing of this above gonna happen
May 23 at 2:01
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Quoting: Poehling
1) this site is to do trade for fun
2) caphit
3) This trade is fair IMO
4) Nothing of this above gonna happen


Well congrats on having fun with your trade that has “no chance of happening”
Just like i first said
Which u apparently now agree with according to you “4)”

Take off your “homer” glasses dude
 
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