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New York Islanders signed Brock Nelson (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)

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May 23 at 12:08
#1
Brock Nelson has signed a new contract with the New York Islanders.
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LENGTH: 6 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: New York IslandersNew York Islanders
VALUE: $36,000,000
C.H.% : 7.55
SIGNING DATE: May 23, 2019
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2019-20NTC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$2,000,000$6,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2020-21NTC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$0$5,200,000$5,200,000$5,200,000
2021-22Modified NTC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2022-23Modified NTC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$0$5,200,000$5,200,000$5,200,000
2023-24Modified NTC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$0$5,600,000$5,600,000$5,600,000
2024-25Modified NTC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$0$4,000,000$4,000,000$4,000,000
TOTAL$36,000,000$36,000,000$0$2,000,000$34,000,000$36,000,000$36,000,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 16 team no trade list.
CLAUSE SOURCE: CapFriendly
May 23 at 12:09
#2
Oilers, Bruins, Habs
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I feel like 6 years 5 million per would have been better
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May 23 at 12:10
#3
Go Jets Go!
Joined: Mar 2018
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I bet lots of people won't like this singing, but I think it's great. He's been a consistent player who can put the puck in the back of the net. Fair term and AAV. Good singing.
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May 23 at 12:12
#4
Marner Kermit Fetish
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,031
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He is okay but this kinda confirms that eberle will leave and they are looking to run with their current team
May 23 at 12:14
#5
Oui non grille-pain
Joined: Feb 2017
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Not a great contract, but not a terrible one either. They did overpay Nelson, but I still think he's a viable 2C.
May 23 at 12:18
#6
Dom6Yotes
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 171
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For a guy that has had one 50 point season in is his career that's a bit much
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May 23 at 12:20
#7
Joined: May 2016
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My first thought was that's a lot, but looking at his last 3 years of production he's there in production with guys like Statsny, Galchenyuk and Henrique to name a few. He's an average #2C, but would be a great #3C on a deep team. Seems like a fair deal all around.
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May 23 at 12:26
#8
Ducks Fly Together
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 257
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I think this is a totally fair deal. Under Trotz, his game at both ends grew considerably. No way he would have gotten anything less (dollars or term) on the open market.
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May 23 at 12:29
#9
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: Icegirl
Not a great contract, but not a terrible one either. They did overpay Nelson, but I still think he's a viable 2C.


It's better keeping the guy you know vs overpaying for Kevin Hayes
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May 23 at 12:29
#10
AwesomeMatthews
Joined: May 2018
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
I feel like 6 years 5 million per would have been better


overpriced
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May 23 at 12:48
#11
Ville Koho
Joined: Feb 2019
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Likes: 5
Remember everyone Pasta makes 6.666mil
May 23 at 12:55
#12
LL & Eggman
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 235
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As an Isles fan, I dont think people who dont watch Isles games understand Nelson's growth both point wise and defensively. Nelson may have been overpaid by a figure of maybe 250k but the term is perfect and his value is immeasurable to the team. He has chemistry with everyone here and he gels on almost any line.
May 23 at 12:56
#13
Komarov>Tavares
Joined: Oct 2016
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If you hate the deal, you don’t know how free agency works
May 23 at 12:56
#14
Joined: May 2016
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Quoting: Ville__Koho
Remember everyone Pasta makes 6.666mil


And Marchand makes $6.1 per year. Not every player is willing to take team friendly deals like that lol
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May 23 at 12:57
#15
Sensible Commentary
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Quoting: Ville__Koho
Remember everyone Pasta makes 6.666mil
clearly that means he's Satan
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May 23 at 1:17
#16
BtZ's buttercup
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That's at least at little overpaid
One season of 50 pts does not justify this deal.
May 23 at 1:58
#17
Joined: Mar 2017
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All unhappy people that judge by number of points he produced, need to remember this is not Fantasy Hockey. There are other aspects to the player evaluation than just points.
May 23 at 1:59
#18
Joined: May 2018
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
I feel like 6 years 5 million per would have been better


I feel like 8 years at 3 million per would have been EVEN better than that
May 23 at 2:26
#19
Go Jets Go!!
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 75
Likes: 68
Yes I have Nelson in my fantasy hockey league. Love the signing and term, very good player. Maybe a tad bit much per but not much.
May 23 at 2:57
#20
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 446
Likes: 240
Sure, good two-way player and his production isn't ass. But I don't know. If everything goes well, it could be just the right value, but even slight regression on either end might make this look really bad really fast.
May 23 at 2:58
#21
GM67
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 237
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Yes it's a good signing for the Islanders because they need all the scorers they can get BUT they overpaid. He's around 5 million tops in my book.
May 23 at 3:23
#22
LL & Eggman
Joined: May 2017
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Quoting: jasondomitrovic
Yes it's a good signing for the Islanders because they need all the scorers they can get BUT they overpaid. He's around 5 million tops in my book.

As many including myself have stated, the NHL isnt EANHL or Fantasy League, points arent everything and the value Brock has for us defensively and team chemistry wise is worth every penny of this deal.
May 23 at 3:25
#23
Joined: Jan 2019
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How are people saying this is a bad deal? This is a helluva steal.
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May 23 at 4:05
#24
I'm a Skatman
Joined: May 2016
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Quoting: MoreOfAnIslesGuy
As many including myself have stated, the NHL isnt EANHL or Fantasy League, points arent everything and the value Brock has for us defensively and team chemistry wise is worth every penny of this deal.



it may not be a huge overpayment, but if you give out 6x6 (the term here is notable!), you really shouldn't cite "chemistry" as an argument. it's a lot of cap space for a middle 6 center who hit 50 points once.

if the term was 1-2 years less, one could argue this was an "okay" deal.
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May 23 at 4:22
#25
Joined: Jun 2018
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Wow this is one divided signing. He's a consistent 20 goal scorer and he's basically hit his prime right now. It's hard to judge the market on that. You can look at a player like Nylander who is about the same.
I think the real issue here is the length. If this goes bad, it's probably going to be in the tail end of it.
 
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