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Nashville true block buster smaller trade with NYR adding vets playing kids

Created by: gretzkyghosts
Initial Creation Date: May 24, 2019
Published: May 24, 2019 at 7:02 pm
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Girgensons, Zemgus1$1,800,000
Larsson, Johan1$1,800,000
Ullmark, Linus1$1,800,000
McCabe, Jake1$3,500,000
Rodrigues, Evan1$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Skinner, Jeff8$8,500,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Bonino, Nick
  2. Subban, P.K.
  3. Turris, Kyle
NSH
  1. Okposo, Kyle
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Shattenkirk, Kevin
Additional Details:
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/226289&pid=865274
NYR
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Sobotka, Vladimír
  3. Weissbach, Linus [Reserve List]
  4. 2020 4th round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
  • Ville Leino: $0
Buried
  • Matt Hunwick: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
BUF
STL
BUF
SJS
BUF
TOR
WPG
BUF
2020
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
STL
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$83,127,024$0$4,682,500-$127,024
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$8,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$3,650,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$767,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
NSH
Turris, Kyle
$6,000,000
C
UFA - 5
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Sheary, Conor
$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
BUF
Rodrigues, Evan
$2,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
NSH
Bonino, Nick
$4,100,000
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Larsson, Johan
$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
NSH
Subban, P.K.
$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$3,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,387,500
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$1,800,000
G
RFA - 1
BUF
Pilut, Lawrence
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Shattenkirk, Kevin
$6,650,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
NYR
Shattenkirk, Kevin
$1,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Nelson, Casey
$812,500
RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Bogosian, Zach
$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Wilson, Scott
$1,050,000
LW
UFA - 1

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May 24, 2019 at 7:10
#1
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 319
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Nashville doesn't need another RHD and they are trying to open up more cap space not take on a cap dump like Okposo
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May 24, 2019 at 7:24
#2
Sabres and Leafs
Joined: Feb 2019
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Likes: 118
Larsson is off to Sweden.
May 24, 2019 at 7:24
#3
Lucas Raymond to NYR
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 1,890
Likes: 265
Quoting: Pullero
Larsson is off to Sweden.


Sabres and Leafs?
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May 24, 2019 at 7:25
#4
Lucas Raymond to NYR
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 1,890
Likes: 265
Quoting: Pullero
Larsson is off to Sweden.

and that was shut down by his agent I believe as much as I would like it.
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May 24, 2019 at 7:26
#5
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 1,489
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Quoting: Pullero
Larsson is off to Sweden.


His agent and Botterill denied it, there seems to be interest from the Swedish teams, but Larsson wants to stay in the NHL.
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May 24, 2019 at 7:27
#6
Sabres and Leafs
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 578
Likes: 118
Quoting: Kakko_to_New_York
Sabres and Leafs?


Yeah, weird isn't it?
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May 24, 2019 at 7:28
#7
Lucas Raymond to NYR
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 1,890
Likes: 265
Quoting: Pullero
Yeah, weird isn't it?


how does that work? lol im a NYR and BUF fan but that kinda works better and makes more sense.
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May 24, 2019 at 7:34
#8
Sabres and Leafs
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 578
Likes: 118
Quoting: Kakko_to_New_York
how does that work? lol im a NYR and BUF fan but that kinda works better and makes more sense.


I'm from Europe, always liked Leafs due to my Dad being a fan of them, but I decided to become a Sabres fan (dont know how it happened) and about a year ago found out about the rivalrytears of joy
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May 24, 2019 at 8:21
#9
future lamentation
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,516
Likes: 2,373
I like this post as a Sabres' fan. Nashville gives Buffalo 2 centers and a previous Norris winner.
Nashville may make this trade as it cuts their cap by almost $8,000,000.
Okposo actually has a year less term than Turris so this may also appeal to Nashville.
Shattenkirk replaces Ristolainen by moving out players that do not fit into the Sabres future.
NYR makes this trade because it reduces their cap next year and they move out a player that does not fit into their future either.
Buffalo makes this trade because Shattenkirk replaces Ristolainen by moving out players that do not fit into the Sabres future.

Quoting: TheDime99
Nashville doesn't need another RHD and they are trying to open up more cap space not take on a cap dump like Okposo

Ristolainen and Subban are RHD defensemen.
Quoting: Kakko_to_New_York
Sabres and Leafs?


Quoting: Cheesesauce
His agent and Botterill denied it, there seems to be interest from the Swedish teams, but Larsson wants to stay in the NHL.


Quoting: Pullero
Yeah, weird isn't it?


Any other comments regarding the trades and team?
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May 24, 2019 at 8:57
#10
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 728
Likes: 175
Subban would get traded to open up cap and make room for Fabbro on the 2nd pairing. Ristolainen defeats the latter.

Turris has been better over the past 3 seasons then Okposo. Turris had better point per game production than Okposo last season as well. Not sure why Nashville would make a seemingly lateral trade at best in swapping Turris for Okposo especially once you consider centers are typically more sought after than wingers.

Subban is better than Ristolainen defensively. I typically try to avoid +/- but when you are a career -143, it is pretty indicative that you are subpar defensively. Offensively Subban has the higher ceiling as well.

Trading out Turris + Bonino guts Nashville's center depth (even if they picked up Duchene). That would put Sissons as 3C. Maybe he can do it maybe not.

This trade would only be helpful to nashville if they had Panarin and Duchene lined up to sign there. Otherwise it doesn't really fit their needs. Even then Okposo doesn't fit any need for Nashville as we've got plenty of bottom 6 wingers (he likely doesn't displace any of the other top 6 currently in Nashville) and trading Turris for Okposo is lateral at best but i have more faith in turris returning to 50 points range then i do Okposo.
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May 25, 2019 at 12:37
#11
Joined: Nov 2017
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Quoting: TheDime99
Nashville doesn't need another RHD and they are trying to open up more cap space not take on a cap dump like Okposo


Sabres take 20 million a year in salary in this trade vs 11.5 going back
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May 25, 2019 at 4:42
#12
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,770
Likes: 362
Not a fan of either of these trades

Shattenkirk is the exact opposite of what we need on defense to try & allow less goals
And with Dahlin, and PK Subban if your Nashville trade happens... how much PP time would he even get?
I want nothing to do with him

As far as the Nashville trade goes...
all kinds of yuck here
1) nice try, but i just can’t see them taking Okposo
2) i know Turris looks good in this tourney, but it’s too small a sample size to overlook how mediocre he’s looked the past couple years
Can’t risk acquiring that sh!tty contract
3) PK is great... but he’d be a horrible fit for us
We are still at least a few years from realistically competing for the Cup, so we’d just be wasting the few really good years he’s got left on this HUGE contract


We should be looking at younger players
There’s no quick fix here
Gotta keep building the right way with good, YOUNG talent
 
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