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Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 25, 2019
Published: May 25, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,600,000
1$1,600,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,000,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Sekera, Andrej ($1,500,000 retained)
  3. 2019 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2019 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. Weise, Dale
  3. 2019 1st round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
Buried
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2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$77,893,809$0$3,175,000$5,106,191
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 7
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$748,333$748,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$0$0 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 25, 2019 at 6:23 p.m.
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We taking on more cap and want to give them a 1st. DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YOU NOT SMART
May 25, 2019 at 6:28 p.m.
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We taking on more cap and want to give them a 1st. DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YOU NOT SMART


We advance quite a lot actually in the draft AND get a high secound rounder . I think Lucic can be a protector , paid haft too much yeah , but we get rid of Alzner + Weise so just for next year its for the same price and Lucic outproduced thoses two at least . I can understand why you wouldnt do it and dont mind statuo quo as well , just testing the waters .
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May 25, 2019 at 6:58 p.m.
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We advance quite a lot actually in the draft AND get a high secound rounder . I think Lucic can be a protector , paid haft too much yeah , but we get rid of Alzner + Weise so just for next year its for the same price and Lucic outproduced thoses two at least . I can understand why you wouldnt do it and dont mind statuo quo as well , just testing the waters .


Since no one disagree (except thoses who grouchs ) im calling my buddy Marc and we call it a deal ! Someone call Kenny (the one with two legs ) he is probably shopping in West ed mall .
May 25, 2019 at 6:59 p.m.
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We advance quite a lot actually in the draft AND get a high secound rounder . I think Lucic can be a protector , paid haft too much yeah , but we get rid of Alzner + Weise so just for next year its for the same price and Lucic outproduced thoses two at least . I can understand why you wouldnt do it and dont mind statuo quo as well , just testing the waters .


I totally agree with you. The difference in value between 8th OA and 15th OA is huge. This + a 2nd rounder would definitely help Montreal long term. We keep Lucic for 2-3 year and then buy him out.
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May 25, 2019 at 7:22 p.m.
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I totally agree with you. The difference in value between 8th OA and 15th OA is huge. This + a 2nd rounder would definitely help Montreal long term. We keep Lucic for 2-3 year and then buy him out.


Lucic isnt that bad , he could be a 4th liner with use in front of the net in PP and enforce the protection of the little buggers : Shaw , Gally , Domi, Lekho , Deslauriers, Weise etc .. He is mainly overpaid that it (by a lot yeah)
May 25, 2019 at 9:17 p.m.
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Boy, you must really want that #8 pick. Who do you have in mind?

Just for the record, did you overlook the fact that you've exceeded the cap?
May 26, 2019 at 4:00 a.m.
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Boy, you must really want that #8 pick. Who do you have in mind?

Just for the record, did you overlook the fact that you've exceeded the cap?


No ! my secret plan is to ship Drouin out for whatever future we can get lol . Im trying to make you swallow the first pill ! Alzner won't play for us and therefore trade for Lucic you get at least an enforcer , a role that could benefit the bunch of buggers we got . Claude Julien was his coach and Weber shot on the PP could use a screen like him as well . I understand this is a tough concept deal and i would like to mention that im against a Lucic trade that wouldn't cap relief back the other way . Trying to get to Byram as much as i can lol .

I should put Duchene at 10 and both rfa fins at 2.2 per for 1 or 2 years and trade Drouin for say Ghostisbere or a 1st and a high hand prospect . Should be easy to fit if it's too much , i would prefer to talk about Lucic trade than the duchene fit in cap space.
May 26, 2019 at 9:31 a.m.
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You can bury guys like Alzner and Weise in the minors and still save some cap space. You can’t bury Lucic, and buying him out gives almost no cap relief (due to his signing bonuses).

Sure you get great future assets, but when Gallagher, Domi, Kotkaniemi need new deals. Habs would be screwed.
May 26, 2019 at 12:44 p.m.
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You can bury guys like Alzner and Weise in the minors and still save some cap space. You can’t bury Lucic, and buying him out gives almost no cap relief (due to his signing bonuses).

Sure you get great future assets, but when Gallagher, Domi, Kotkaniemi need new deals. Habs would be screwed.


You can play him for a year or two and then buy im out . Have you do the maths about it ? This aint that bad i think .
May 26, 2019 at 3:57 p.m.
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You can play him for a year or two and then buy im out . Have you do the maths about it ? This aint that bad i think .


I have checked. Buying him out 2-3 years down the road won’t help alleviate any cap space. Because Lucic’s deal is filled with signing bonuses. His base salary in his last three years are $1mil, $2.5mil, and $1mil. You’d still be on the hook for about $5mil on your salary cap during those years....

If we are strictly talking about cap management. It makes a million times more sense to keep Alzner and Weise, bury them if needed, and have the cap space to keep all your top players that have expiring contracts in 3-4years.
May 26, 2019 at 4:08 p.m.
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I have checked. Buying him out 2-3 years down the road won’t help alleviate any cap space. Because Lucic’s deal is filled with signing bonuses. His base salary in his last three years are $1mil, $2.5mil, and $1mil. You’d still be on the hook for about $5mil on your salary cap during those years....

If we are strictly talking about cap management. It makes a million times more sense to keep Alzner and Weise, bury them if needed, and have the cap space to keep all your top players that have expiring contracts in 3-4years.


i can give you the example of the ressurgence of Matt Martin with the Isles or Ryan Reaves use , Tom Wilson there is some intangeble in Lucic i think . Alzner won't play here which is 3 years at 4.6 i mean i understand u guys think only in cap space and bury him in the minors but even Lucic in AHL would be good for the tickets sales in goon city Laval . I see a Shawn Thornton use for Claude Julien . I understand it's a risky contract to get it just for fun anyway . There also a 3m retention from Sekera to consider in the number games . So year 1 same price cauz of Weise + Alzner , second year even money because of Sekera 3M ,next year also and then there is the fourth year yeah but then this year you buy out .. idk
May 26, 2019 at 4:43 p.m.
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i can give you the example of the ressurgence of Matt Martin with the Isles or Ryan Reaves use , Tom Wilson there is some intangeble in Lucic i think . Alzner won't play here which is 3 years at 4.6 i mean i understand u guys think only in cap space and bury him in the minors but even Lucic in AHL would be good for the tickets sales in goon city Laval . I see a Shawn Thornton use for Claude Julien . I understand it's a risky contract to get it just for fun anyway . There also a 3m retention from Sekera to consider in the number games . So year 1 same price cauz of Weise + Alzner , second year even money because of Sekera 3M ,next year also and then there is the fourth year yeah but then this year you buy out .. idk


You can’t send Lucic to the AHL, he has a full NMC.

I’ll give you an example too. One that I find realistic. Let’s just say Bergevin signs 1 solid UFA this summer, or spends about $6-7mil + in the offseason for multiple seasons. MTL spends to the cap is what I’m saying, and this upcoming season Max Domi continues to play well and now needs a new deal at the end of the season. Habs will be able to sign him, Weise will be gone, but then the cap still becomes tight. The following year Gallagher will need a new deal. Habs should be able to sign him too, but at that point the cap will be getting real hard to manage. If it gets too hard, keeping Alzner in the minors helps A LOT. You can’t do that with Lucic. Then the year after that when Kotkaniemi is done his ELC, and all us Habs fans are hoping that MTL are legit cup contenders. They will for sure be up against the cap. Do you want to be stuck with Lucic then? It doesn’t matter if he found some of his mojo back, and can be a decent 3rd liner. His $6mil cap hit will cripple MTL in 3+ years. And buying him out would do NOTHING.

It’s not worth it, man. I thought of acquiring Lucic a while back, because of the Julien connection. It just makes ZERO sense long term. Let EDM buy him out and deal with their own problems. Maybe then try and get Lucic at a short term deal at like $1.5mil for free. I’d get 100% behind that.
May 26, 2019 at 5:17 p.m.
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You can’t send Lucic to the AHL, he has a full NMC.

I’ll give you an example too. One that I find realistic. Let’s just say Bergevin signs 1 solid UFA this summer, or spends about $6-7mil + in the offseason for multiple seasons. MTL spends to the cap is what I’m saying, and this upcoming season Max Domi continues to play well and now needs a new deal at the end of the season. Habs will be able to sign him, Weise will be gone, but then the cap still becomes tight. The following year Gallagher will need a new deal. Habs should be able to sign him too, but at that point the cap will be getting real hard to manage. If it gets too hard, keeping Alzner in the minors helps A LOT. You can’t do that with Lucic. Then the year after that when Kotkaniemi is done his ELC, and all us Habs fans are hoping that MTL are legit cup contenders. They will for sure be up against the cap. Do you want to be stuck with Lucic then? It doesn’t matter if he found some of his mojo back, and can be a decent 3rd liner. His $6mil cap hit will cripple MTL in 3+ years. And buying him out would do NOTHING.

It’s not worth it, man. I thought of acquiring Lucic a while back, because of the Julien connection. It just makes ZERO sense long term. Let EDM buy him out and deal with their own problems. Maybe then try and get Lucic at a short term deal at like $1.5mil for free. I’d get 100% behind that.


Quoting: Blazingbat11
You can’t send Lucic to the AHL, he has a full NMC.

I’ll give you an example too. One that I find realistic. Let’s just say Bergevin signs 1 solid UFA this summer, or spends about $6-7mil + in the offseason for multiple seasons. MTL spends to the cap is what I’m saying, and this upcoming season Max Domi continues to play well and now needs a new deal at the end of the season. Habs will be able to sign him, Weise will be gone, but then the cap still becomes tight. The following year Gallagher will need a new deal. Habs should be able to sign him too, but at that point the cap will be getting real hard to manage. If it gets too hard, keeping Alzner in the minors helps A LOT. You can’t do that with Lucic. Then the year after that when Kotkaniemi is done his ELC, and all us Habs fans are hoping that MTL are legit cup contenders. They will for sure be up against the cap. Do you want to be stuck with Lucic then? It doesn’t matter if he found some of his mojo back, and can be a decent 3rd liner. His $6mil cap hit will cripple MTL in 3+ years. And buying him out would do NOTHING.

It’s not worth it, man. I thought of acquiring Lucic a while back, because of the Julien connection. It just makes ZERO sense long term. Let EDM buy him out and deal with their own problems. Maybe then try and get Lucic at a short term deal at like $1.5mil for free. I’d get 100% behind that.


Quoting: Blazingbat11
You can’t send Lucic to the AHL, he has a full NMC.

I’ll give you an example too. One that I find realistic. Let’s just say Bergevin signs 1 solid UFA this summer, or spends about $6-7mil + in the offseason for multiple seasons. MTL spends to the cap is what I’m saying, and this upcoming season Max Domi continues to play well and now needs a new deal at the end of the season. Habs will be able to sign him, Weise will be gone, but then the cap still becomes tight. The following year Gallagher will need a new deal. Habs should be able to sign him too, but at that point the cap will be getting real hard to manage. If it gets too hard, keeping Alzner in the minors helps A LOT. You can’t do that with Lucic. Then the year after that when Kotkaniemi is done his ELC, and all us Habs fans are hoping that MTL are legit cup contenders. They will for sure be up against the cap. Do you want to be stuck with Lucic then? It doesn’t matter if he found some of his mojo back, and can be a decent 3rd liner. His $6mil cap hit will cripple MTL in 3+ years. And buying him out would do NOTHING.

It’s not worth it, man. I thought of acquiring Lucic a while back, because of the Julien connection. It just makes ZERO sense long term. Let EDM buy him out and deal with their own problems. Maybe then try and get Lucic at a short term deal at like $1.5mil for free. I’d get 100% behind that.


i didnt know u cant bury him ill give u that . still think he's a decent 4th liner . u have good points .
 
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