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Created by: Rangsey
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2019
Published: May 27, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I truly believe Karlsson to Tampa talk is silly. They would be just too top loaded to make sustainable depth and success work.

But if we're entertaining this insanity, may as well lean into it.
He signs for the exact same cap hit as Heddy. 6 years si they can plan their next move together.

Point says 'im not as good as Kuch but im better than Stammer"

Pavelski wants to try things out on the east coast and realizes the San Jose window has closed with the retirement of Jumbo


Everyone waives NTCs because JBB is super convincing and they all desire to play in these exact locations.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
1$2,000,000
8$8,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$7,875,000
2$5,000,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (VAN)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (VAN)
2.
TBL
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (COL)
3.
TBL
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (BOS)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (BOS)
4.
TBL
  1. 2019 5th round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Callahan, Ryan
  2. Katchouk, Boris
Additional Details:
**Standard Cap Friendly Callahan Move**
5.
MIN
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. 2019 1st round pick (TBL)
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (BOS)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (BOS)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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Logo of the VAN
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Logo of the CHI
2020
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the COL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
2021
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$82,213,423$0$1,862,500$786,577
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$8,750,000$8,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$864,167$864,167
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$759,258$759,258
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$833,333$833,333
RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
$7,875,000$7,875,000
RD
UFA - 8
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$147,500$148K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,150,000$1,150,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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May 27, 2019 at 7:36 p.m.
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What else are you adding to the Panthers? They aren’t just going to help you with your cap situation for free.
May 27, 2019 at 7:37 p.m.
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What else are you adding to the Panthers? They aren’t just going to help you with your cap situation for free.


Just because Tampa has cap problems doesnt make their forwards bad.
May 27, 2019 at 7:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
Just because Tampa has cap problems doesnt make their forwards bad.


Didn’t say that, said the Cats are going to help them get better unless you pay them to. Yanni is a salary dump to be able to afford EK and Point plain and simple. Also what makes you think both accept such low salaries? They both can get paid much more elsewhere.
May 27, 2019 at 7:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Kosterjr
Didn’t say that, said the Cats are going to help them get better unless you pay them to. Yanni is a salary dump to be able to afford EK and Point plain and simple. Also what makes you think both accept such low salaries? They both can get paid much more elsewhere.


Yanni Gourde is not a cap dump, and, if not the Panthers, there are probably about 30 other teams that would love to have him.

The only problems with this are that NYR is not going to take on Callahan if they're really in on Karlsson, Palat has an NTC and is very unlikely to waive to go to VAN, Boston doesn't have the cap space for Killorn, and Tyler Johnson has an NTC that he probably wouldn't waive to go to MIN. You have to find teams with cap space that are also appealing enough to convince someone to waive an NTC, and there are very few places these players would rather be than a dominant Tampa team.
May 27, 2019 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Kosterjr
Didn’t say that, said the Cats are going to help them get better unless you pay them to. Yanni is a salary dump to be able to afford EK and Point plain and simple. Also what makes you think both accept such low salaries? They both can get paid much more elsewhere.


But the Yanni trade comes before the Karlsson signing. 3rd rounder for him is a bargain. Point's an RFA with no arb rights. As i said in the description, Karlsson to Tampa is ridiculous so im leaning into the insanity. Point taking 875 isnt the most unreasonable number considering Tampa's salary structure. Kuch signed for 9.5. does Point think he's that much better than Kuch?
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May 27, 2019 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
But the Yanni trade comes before the Karlsson signing. 3rd rounder for him is a bargain. Point's an RFA with no arb rights. As i said in the description, Karlsson to Tampa is ridiculous so im leaning into the insanity. Point taking 875 isnt the most unreasonable number considering Tampa's salary structure. Kuch signed for 9.5. does Point think he's that much better than Kuch?


Oh I don’t think he should get more than Kucherov but teams with cap space might do an offer sheets for 9-10 million per year. Everyone keep saying that we can see more offer sheets than ever before. We got to wait and see
May 27, 2019 at 8:08 p.m.
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BANNED NO KARLSSON
May 27, 2019 at 8:21 p.m.
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BANNED NO KARLSSON


Was wondering how long itd take you to rock up. Was tempted to bridge Point. :-)
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May 27, 2019 at 8:25 p.m.
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Oh I don’t think he should get more than Kucherov but teams with cap space might do an offer sheets for 9-10 million per year. Everyone keep saying that we can see more offer sheets than ever before. We got to wait and see


But he'd also have to sign said offersheet. In certain markets he makes the same 8.75mil or 10mil. He signs a 10million offersheet and Tampa dont match he shoots himself in the foot. Who gives him a better chance of winning multiple cups in the next few years
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May 27, 2019 at 8:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Kosterjr
Oh I don’t think he should get more than Kucherov but teams with cap space might do an offer sheets for 9-10 million per year. Everyone keep saying that we can see more offer sheets than ever before. We got to wait and see


Quoting: Rangsey
But he'd also have to sign said offersheet. In certain markets he makes the same 8.75mil or 10mil. He signs a 10million offersheet and Tampa dont match he shoots himself in the foot. Who gives him a better chance of winning multiple cups in the next few years


And don't forget that 8.5M in Tampa are around 9.5M in NY (State) and 10.5M in San Jose.
Chris Johnston had this to say about a Brayden Point offer sheet: If offer sheets had any rate of success, we would all be talking about the clear and present danger the Tampa Bay Lightning are facing with Brayden Point. He’s 22 years old, an absolute stud No. 1 centre and the Lightning are projected to have less than $10 million in available cap space for next season.

But does anyone really believe that Point can be convinced to leave a top team in an extremely desirable NHL city even with silly money on an offer sheet?


The answer is no.
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May 27, 2019 at 9:48 p.m.
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DISNEYLAND forces out in full mass tonight .. why not just watch a REAL cup team from Boston in action. .. it's called balls not stars
May 27, 2019 at 10:16 p.m.
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DISNEYLAND forces out in full mass tonight .. why not just watch a REAL cup team from Boston in action. .. it's called balls not stars


Yeah Mojo is having a great game.

Bergeron and Marchand arent stars? McAvoy not a star? Pasta not a star? Come on now bud.
As far as Disneyland is concerned, all the California teams are out. Disney World however.
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May 27, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
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Yeah Mojo is having a great game.

Bergeron and Marchand arent stars? McAvoy not a star? Pasta not a star? Come on now bud.
As far as Disneyland is concerned, all the California teams are out. Disney

Boston 3rd and 4th line are difference .. with Clifton and Carlo at D .. THAT is why Boston winning .. been that way all playoffs ... stars dont win championships .. only in NBA
May 27, 2019 at 10:48 p.m.
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Curaly right on que .. scoring chances .. 25 to 5 .. this ain't even close
May 27, 2019 at 11:31 p.m.
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Curaly right on que .. scoring chances .. 25 to 5 .. this ain't even close


Yep. 2nd period on it was all Bruins. Gonna take an effort from St Louis from here.
May 28, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.
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Way underpaid Pavs and EK65
May 29, 2019 at 12:49 a.m.
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Way underpaid Pavs and EK65


Did you read the description? :-) yes I know, Karlsson isnt going to Tampa, nobody is waiving ntcs.
May 29, 2019 at 12:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
Did you read the description? :-) yes I know, Karlsson isnt going to Tampa, nobody is waiving ntcs.


Ok, but what's the point of making this if all the signings are way off
 
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